Re: Browsers and emailers [Was Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?]

2005-04-14 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 01:07:29AM -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote

 IMHO move on to mozilla, unless there really is something showstopping
 holding you to netscrape.
 *shudder* have not used netscrape for many moons, didn't even know you
 could still get it?
 
 Still strong: :: Win: currently 7.2  Lin: currently 7.1
 
 ... *shudder* ... :: 7.0 was *massively* better than any previous, 7.1 
 modestly-moderately better than 7.0  (In Win; haven't had Lin-Video up 
 to my standards until just now with Gentoo.)
 
 I *need* all past email to remain in use, without any chance of loss or 
 error, and I need all new email to go to the same place, and I bloody 
 well intend, if possible, to use *one* tool to access all of it.  Ditto 
 bookmarks, eddresses, etc.. 
 
 If Netscape/Linux won't share thusly with Netscape/Win, then I will be 
 looking for something else in Linux, or both. Current thought has Opera 
 for both as browser, and I have no email candidate yet -- *MUST* work 
 same in both o/ss!  Oh, and I have at least two mailboxes from two 
 different providers, and Netscape handles both in the same screen.
 
 If Netscape will work  share, there would have to be a very good reason 
 to change.  That said, I'm certainly willing to learn newer browse/mail 
 tools for real advantage (but not for 'cooless' or 'religious' 
 nonsense), but I absolutely *need* Win  Lin to play nice by using one 
 file-set for both's everything depending on which o/s I've booted into 
 at any particular moment.
 
 Can Mozilla SHARE the Win/Netscape bookmarks, history, eddress-book, 
 **and** local accumulated-mail folders with my Win/Netscape ?


 Feel free to jump in and educate me, Nick, folks!

  Well, since you asked...
  - Netscape up to and including version 4.x was proprietary software
with abysmal spaghetti code.

  - Netscape 6 and onwards *IS* Mozilla.  Specifically, it's an
AOL-branded Mozilla 1.x distro, complete with AOL's AIM and other
AOL garbage, which you may not want.  The only problem I expect is
that you may not be able to have both installed simultaneously due
to the fact that they have the vast majority of their files the same.

  You should be able to copy stuff back and forth.  They're the same
programs.  I don't see any problems other than copying pure text files
between linux and Windows; LF versus CRLF.

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eventually produce a report showing that Windows is more secure,
and has a lower TCO, than linux.
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Re: Browsers and emailers [Was Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?]

2005-04-12 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 01:07 -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote:
 Can Mozilla SHARE the Win/Netscape bookmarks, history, eddress-book, 
 **and** local accumulated-mail folders with my Win/Netscape ?

I understand that the answer is yes, although I have not done it. I
think the answer would be the same for thunderbird/firefox.

I have the same requirement with email, but solve it with imap. In other
words I have a server with all my mail stored on it. I can access it
with any client from any computer from any OS, including over the web
via squirrelmail. I don't really know any mail clients that do not do
imap. That, IMHO is the answer to accessing mail from different OSes,
although it may not suit people who don't want or cannot afford another
computer in their house/place of work.

 
 (I sometimes must spend *many* hours in Win to run tools and 
 applications to make money with.  These programs (mostly related to 
 embedded tiny processors) are win-only, and have no
 linux-equivalents, 
 and won't even run under Win4Lin since w4l9x basically does not
 support 
 'random' USB devices like embedded debuggers.)
 
 Feel free to jump in and educate me, Nick, folks!
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Browsers and emailers [Was Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?]

2005-04-11 Thread Robert G. Hays
Continued at Bottom...
Nick Rout wrote:
Robert G. Hays wrote:
Might be 24+ hours before I get back from linux -- only do mail in 
Netscape 7.1, which I only have in Win at the moment; working to get 
linux full for my needs, which will include Netscape.  
   

IMHO move on to mozilla, unless there really is something showstopping
holding you to netscrape.
*shudder* have not used netscrape for many moons, didn't even know you
could still get it?
Still strong: :: Win: currently 7.2  Lin: currently 7.1
... *shudder* ... :: 7.0 was *massively* better than any previous, 7.1 
modestly-moderately better than 7.0  (In Win; haven't had Lin-Video up 
to my standards until just now with Gentoo.)

I *need* all past email to remain in use, without any chance of loss or 
error, and I need all new email to go to the same place, and I bloody 
well intend, if possible, to use *one* tool to access all of it.  Ditto 
bookmarks, eddresses, etc.. 

If Netscape/Linux won't share thusly with Netscape/Win, then I will be 
looking for something else in Linux, or both. Current thought has Opera 
for both as browser, and I have no email candidate yet -- *MUST* work 
same in both o/ss!  Oh, and I have at least two mailboxes from two 
different providers, and Netscape handles both in the same screen.

If Netscape will work  share, there would have to be a very good reason 
to change.  That said, I'm certainly willing to learn newer browse/mail 
tools for real advantage (but not for 'cooless' or 'religious' 
nonsense), but I absolutely *need* Win  Lin to play nice by using one 
file-set for both's everything depending on which o/s I've booted into 
at any particular moment.

Can Mozilla SHARE the Win/Netscape bookmarks, history, eddress-book, 
**and** local accumulated-mail folders with my Win/Netscape ?

(I sometimes must spend *many* hours in Win to run tools and 
applications to make money with.  These programs (mostly related to 
embedded tiny processors) are win-only, and have no linux-equivalents, 
and won't even run under Win4Lin since w4l9x basically does not support 
'random' USB devices like embedded debuggers.)

Feel free to jump in and educate me, Nick, folks!
rgh.
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