Re: Browsers and emailers [Was Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?]

2005-04-14 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 01:07:29AM -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote IMHO move on to mozilla, unless there really is something showstopping holding you to netscrape. *shudder* have not used netscrape for many moons, didn't even know you could still get it? Still strong: :: Win: currently 7.2

Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?

2005-04-12 Thread Eric S. Johansson
Mike Williams wrote: On Monday 11 April 2005 23:18, Eric S. Johansson wrote: ;);) (I've started to mount it read only so at least an error came up) I always leave it mounted since it makes little real difference security wise. seriously, what does it protects you against when a compromise can

Re: Browsers and emailers [Was Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?]

2005-04-12 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 01:07 -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote: Can Mozilla SHARE the Win/Netscape bookmarks, history, eddress-book, **and** local accumulated-mail folders with my Win/Netscape ? I understand that the answer is yes, although I have not done it. I think the answer would be the same for

RE: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?

2005-04-11 Thread Alexander Veit
Robert G. Hays wrote: In the Gentoo manual, in the early stages, it mentions -tT; nearby below, it mentions another hdparm line to speed things up. Did you try that line? I've tried it. The result is 19.11 MB/sec. But why are the values posted before so different? hdparm -vid /dev/hda

Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?

2005-04-11 Thread Richard Fish
Alexander Veit wrote: geometry = 4867/255/63, sectors = 78198750, start = 0 geometry = 65535/16/63, sectors = 4003776, start = 0 Well, the obvious thing for me is the difference in the drive geometries between the two systems...the 2.6 kernel is seeing the entire drive while

Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?

2005-04-11 Thread Alexander Veit
Richard Fish wrote: Alexander Veit wrote: geometry = 4867/255/63, sectors = 78198750, start = 0 geometry = 65535/16/63, sectors = 4003776, start = 0 Well, the obvious thing for me is the difference in the drive geometries between the two systems...the 2.6 kernel is

Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?

2005-04-11 Thread Justin Patrin
On Apr 11, 2005 12:58 PM, Robert G. Hays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, we know what the drive can do; at least, At Least!, so I am left suspecting that the Gentoo kernel does not have the best setup for the mobo, --or-- has something in there for safety that has the effect of slowing the

Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?

2005-04-11 Thread Matthew Cline
If you go the make 'config route, *do* by all means read all the help you can find in there before changing thins; you cwill probably find something that interacts with something else that you've already done that makes what you've already done irrelevant or -wrong-, so read all through the

Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?

2005-04-11 Thread Alexander Veit
Robert G. Hays wrote: Well, we know what the drive can do; at least, At Least!, so I am left suspecting that the Gentoo kernel does not have the best setup for the mobo, --or-- has something in there for safety that has the effect of slowing the throughput down; make [ menuconfig |

Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?

2005-04-11 Thread Matthew Cline
probably that you forget 50% of the times the # mount /boot ;) (I've started to mount it read only so at least an error came up) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I seem to recall that the make install script will spit out an error if it doesn't find grub or lilo in /boot, which would

Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?

2005-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Apr 11, 2005 11:59 AM, Alexander Veit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any ideas how to get the same disk performance with Gentoo? Thanks in advance Alex Alex, Does Knoppix enable /proc/config.gz? If so look there. Also, do you see anything much different about modules being loaded

Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?

2005-04-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Apr 11, 2005 3:18 PM, Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote: Matthew Cline wrote: I recommend using genkernel for creating a kernel. You still have to deal with configuring yourself, but then Gentoo deals with the compile and moving the kernel around

Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?

2005-04-11 Thread Robert G. Hays
Richard Fish wrote: Snip! # time dd if=/dev/hda bs=64k count=16000 (time the reading of 1G of data from hda). Feel free to adjust count to your liking...although it should be at least twice memory. At 20M/sec you are looking at about 1G/min for reading. -Richard (And how many -- or rather how

Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?

2005-04-11 Thread Robert G. Hays
I've saved your listing, when I next boot to linux, I'll dif that against what I have (before W4L) let you know *IF* I notice something meaningful -- kinda new to this part, too, me, but I'll try. Might be 24+ hours before I get back from linux -- only do mail in Netscape 7.1, which I only

Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?

2005-04-11 Thread Mike Williams
On Monday 11 April 2005 23:18, Eric S. Johansson wrote: ;);) (I've started to mount it read only so at least an error came up) I always leave it mounted since it makes little real difference security wise.  seriously, what does it protects you against when a compromise can probably also

Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?

2005-04-11 Thread Robert G. Hays
Eric S. Johansson wrote: Snip! seriously, what does it protects you against when a compromise can probably also mount it then unmount it again as a courtesy What Mark said :: Just the random rm / ... Also some *strange* internal errors I've seen over the years, and... if the computer is

Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?

2005-04-11 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:44:20 -0400 Robert G. Hays wrote: Might be 24+ hours before I get back from linux -- only do mail in Netscape 7.1, which I only have in Win at the moment; working to get linux full for my needs, which will include Netscape. IMHO move on to mozilla, unless there

Browsers and emailers [Was Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?]

2005-04-11 Thread Robert G. Hays
Continued at Bottom... Nick Rout wrote: Robert G. Hays wrote: Might be 24+ hours before I get back from linux -- only do mail in Netscape 7.1, which I only have in Win at the moment; working to get linux full for my needs, which will include Netscape. IMHO move on to mozilla, unless there

Re: [gentoo-user] Knoppix twice as fast as Gentoo?

2005-04-11 Thread Richard Fish
Alexander Veit wrote: I've changed the access mode from auto to lba. The same results. Then from lba to large. Same results. Ok, thanks for trying. It was worth a shot. Also, it might be interesting to see the dmesg output for the IDE controller. With access mode set to lba (this