Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

On 21/11/2022 18:15, Laurence Perkins wrote: Separate displays is useful for multi-headed systems. I know a couple people who buy one, high-power desktop for the whole family and then attach multiple screens and input devices. If you want to do that, but your GPU can't handle multiple X

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

Am Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 07:37:01PM - schrieb Grant Edwards: > >> My office setup had three screens, each with four virtual desktops. > >> > >> When using multiple screens, you develop the habit of using one screen > >> for common, always-on stuff (e.g. email, web browser) and the other > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 10:50 AM Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2022-11-21, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > I don't personally remember NVidia ever dropping a card totally > > but I did get confused for awhile when they started segmenting their > > drivers by different families and it was up to me to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

On Monday, 21 November 2022 18:12:41 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2022-11-21, Michael wrote: > > On Monday, 21 November 2022 16:50:14 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2022-11-21, Michael wrote: > >> > On Monday, 21 November 2022 16:11:13 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > >> >> I did have to give up

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

> -Original Message- > From: Michael > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2022 9:24 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version > > On Monday, 21 November 2022 16:50:14 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > > On

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

On Monday, 21 November 2022 16:50:14 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2022-11-21, Michael wrote: > > On Monday, 21 November 2022 16:11:13 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > >> I did have to give up the option of having multiple X11 > >> screens. The proprietary NVidia driver supported multiple screens, > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 9:11 AM Grant Edwards wrote: > > They always worked great using the NVidia blob drivers, but > using NVidia drivers was a constant source of minor pain. Often kernel > updates had to be postponed until NVidia driver support caught up, and > they too dropped support and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

On Monday, 21 November 2022 16:11:13 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2022-11-21, Dale wrote: > > I did re-emerge the nvidia drivers for the old kernel. [...] > > > > If I get bored, and it warms up a little, I may build a 5.19 kernel. > > Thing is, by the time I get around to rebooting, nvidia

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

> That may be true. I used to not mind rebooting as much but since I started > having to use the init thingy, I only do it when really necessary. Those > init thingys have left a long term bad taste in my mouth. If I could, I'd > likely never reboot. Thing is, sometimes I have a power

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

Michael wrote: > On Monday, 14 November 2022 21:05:57 GMT Dale wrote: > >> Thing is, I may go a year, sometimes more, without updating the kernel. >> If I rebooted often, I could see using a LTS kernel. If a kernel can >> run for months with no problems, it's stable enough for me. Plus my >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

On 14/11/2022 21:44, Michael wrote: Shutting down your desktop applications and rebooting with a new kernel takes no longer than a couple of minutes. I mean even busy bank customer web portals have planned downtime. There's a lot more to it than that ... The reason I don't run new kernels

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

On Monday, 14 November 2022 21:05:57 GMT Dale wrote: > Thing is, I may go a year, sometimes more, without updating the kernel. > If I rebooted often, I could see using a LTS kernel. If a kernel can > run for months with no problems, it's stable enough for me. Plus my > hardware works. Keeping

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 2:06 PM Dale wrote: > > Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 12/11/2022 23:37, Dale wrote: > >> Usually, I try to update about once a year. I don't change hardware > >> much. > > > > The main reason I suggested LTS is because that, *when* you decide to > > do a @world update,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 12/11/2022 23:37, Dale wrote: >> Usually, I try to update about once a year.  I don't change hardware >> much. > > The main reason I suggested LTS is because that, *when* you decide to > do a @world update, you will get the latest LTS of the same main > version you're

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 12:13 PM Wol > wrote: > > > > On 12/11/2022 18:22, Dale wrote: > > > Where does one go for a list of the LTS kernels?  Since I reboot so > > > rarely, what not use one of them??  Of course, the kernel I have > in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 2:13 PM Wol wrote: > > The idea behind stable kernels is great. The implementation leaves a lot > to be desired and, as always, the reason is not enough manpower. > Two things: first, LTS kernels aren't the same as stable kernels. Dale has been running stable kernels, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 12:13 PM Wol wrote: > > On 12/11/2022 18:22, Dale wrote: > > Where does one go for a list of the LTS kernels? Since I reboot so > > rarely, what not use one of them?? Of course, the kernel I have in use > > now has long uptimes so it is sort of LTS for this rig anyway. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

On 12/11/2022 18:22, Dale wrote: Where does one go for a list of the LTS kernels?  Since I reboot so rarely, what not use one of them??  Of course, the kernel I have in use now has long uptimes so it is sort of LTS for this rig anyway. Do you REALLY want an LTS kernel? Sounds like you don't.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

> Where does one go for a list of the LTS kernels? Since I reboot so > rarely, what not use one of them?? Of course, the kernel I have in use > now has long uptimes so it is sort of LTS for this rig anyway. ;-) > > Dale > > :-) :-) https://www.kernel.org/

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version

Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 11/11/2022 08:25, Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I been stuck on gentoo-sources 5.14.15 for a while.  I tried upgrading >> to I think 5.16 and then more recently 5.18. > If you've been using 5.14 until now, it would appear to me you're the > target audience of the LTS