Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
On 19 July 2011, at 20:41, Grant wrote: ... I found this: We recommend using the Just Scan mode with 1080i and 1080p material, which assures zero overscan and proper 1:1 pixel matching for this 1080p display. http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/lg-47lh90/4505-6482_7-33485570.html#reviewPage1 Just Scan is what I've always used which has the ghosting problem. I think I'm back to square one. I think the Windows versions of the nVidia drivers have options to over- or under-scan. This compensates for (older?) TVs which have no way to switch to a just scan mode. So the graphics card will, I think, output a slightly over-sized picture, then the telly will scale it down a bit back to normal size. This will not produce a perfect picture, but if overscan on the TV cannot be disabled, then there is no better choice. Is it possible they have recently added this feature to the Linux nVidia driver? Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 19 July 2011, at 20:41, Grant wrote: ... I found this: We recommend using the Just Scan mode with 1080i and 1080p material, which assures zero overscan and proper 1:1 pixel matching for this 1080p display. http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/lg-47lh90/4505-6482_7-33485570.html#reviewPage1 Just Scan is what I've always used which has the ghosting problem. I think I'm back to square one. I think the Windows versions of the nVidia drivers have options to over- or under-scan. This compensates for (older?) TVs which have no way to switch to a just scan mode. So the graphics card will, I think, output a slightly over-sized picture, then the telly will scale it down a bit back to normal size. This will not produce a perfect picture, but if overscan on the TV cannot be disabled, then there is no better choice. Is it possible they have recently added this feature to the Linux nVidia driver? Possibly related observation: On my 720p TV, if I output (via HDMI) 720p to it, I lose the outer ten or so pixels off of each side of the screen. NVidia video card configuration tool indicated a higher resolution was available, 13??x???, which resulted in a fine picture with no missing pixels, once I switched to it. This was about a year ago. (Can't easily test, now, because I no longer have a PC hooked up to that TV) -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
--snip-- The TV is an LG 47LH90 and and it is said to do 1080p. I looked for ghosting in 16:9 mode instead of Just Scan mode and strangely the shadows are there, but they're oriented top and bottom instead of left and right. I can take another photo if anyone would like to see. Why do I need to select Just Scan in order to prevent all 4 edges of the screen from being cut off? - Grant BTW I think you're on to something Stroller because the overall picture is definitely improved in 16:9 mode compared to Just Scan mode. I just need to figure out how to prevent the edges of the screen from being cut off. - Grant Grant, By default most TVs overscan inputs due to broadcast signals at the edges as the picture there is not well defined and can have white overscan lines and such. The TV compensates by overscanning which basically zooms in on the picture making (on my 46 Samsung TV) the outer 1-1.5 of the picture disappear. On my TV it was fairly simple to turn this off, I just had to label the HDMI input as DVI PC and it automatically turned off any picture processing/overscanning. Yours may be similar. Sorry if there's typos, I have a bandaged finger and it's a PITA to type with. I think I fixed all of them. Dan I found this: We recommend using the Just Scan mode with 1080i and 1080p material, which assures zero overscan and proper 1:1 pixel matching for this 1080p display. http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/lg-47lh90/4505-6482_7-33485570.html# reviewPage1 Just Scan is what I've always used which has the ghosting problem. I think I'm back to square one. Just a thought: have you approached the OEM for the TV? If you could get to some technical department they would hopefully advise if this is a setting or hardware issue. That may be. I'll try that. Please let me know if you think this may be a software issue of some sort. - Grant
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
On 01/-10/37 11:59, Grant wrote: --snip-- The TV is an LG 47LH90 and and it is said to do 1080p. I looked for ghosting in 16:9 mode instead of Just Scan mode and strangely the shadows are there, but they're oriented top and bottom instead of left and right. I can take another photo if anyone would like to see. Why do I need to select Just Scan in order to prevent all 4 edges of the screen from being cut off? - Grant BTW I think you're on to something Stroller because the overall picture is definitely improved in 16:9 mode compared to Just Scan mode. I just need to figure out how to prevent the edges of the screen from being cut off. - Grant Grant, By default most TVs overscan inputs due to broadcast signals at the edges as the picture there is not well defined and can have white overscan lines and such. The TV compensates by overscanning which basically zooms in on the picture making (on my 46 Samsung TV) the outer 1-1.5 of the picture disappear. On my TV it was fairly simple to turn this off, I just had to label the HDMI input as DVI PC and it automatically turned off any picture processing/overscanning. Yours may be similar. Sorry if there's typos, I have a bandaged finger and it's a PITA to type with. I think I fixed all of them. Dan
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
--snip-- The TV is an LG 47LH90 and and it is said to do 1080p. I looked for ghosting in 16:9 mode instead of Just Scan mode and strangely the shadows are there, but they're oriented top and bottom instead of left and right. I can take another photo if anyone would like to see. Why do I need to select Just Scan in order to prevent all 4 edges of the screen from being cut off? - Grant BTW I think you're on to something Stroller because the overall picture is definitely improved in 16:9 mode compared to Just Scan mode. I just need to figure out how to prevent the edges of the screen from being cut off. - Grant Grant, By default most TVs overscan inputs due to broadcast signals at the edges as the picture there is not well defined and can have white overscan lines and such. The TV compensates by overscanning which basically zooms in on the picture making (on my 46 Samsung TV) the outer 1-1.5 of the picture disappear. On my TV it was fairly simple to turn this off, I just had to label the HDMI input as DVI PC and it automatically turned off any picture processing/overscanning. Yours may be similar. Sorry if there's typos, I have a bandaged finger and it's a PITA to type with. I think I fixed all of them. Dan I found this: We recommend using the Just Scan mode with 1080i and 1080p material, which assures zero overscan and proper 1:1 pixel matching for this 1080p display. http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/lg-47lh90/4505-6482_7-33485570.html#reviewPage1 Just Scan is what I've always used which has the ghosting problem. I think I'm back to square one. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
On Tuesday 19 Jul 2011 20:41:08 Grant wrote: --snip-- The TV is an LG 47LH90 and and it is said to do 1080p. I looked for ghosting in 16:9 mode instead of Just Scan mode and strangely the shadows are there, but they're oriented top and bottom instead of left and right. I can take another photo if anyone would like to see. Why do I need to select Just Scan in order to prevent all 4 edges of the screen from being cut off? - Grant BTW I think you're on to something Stroller because the overall picture is definitely improved in 16:9 mode compared to Just Scan mode. I just need to figure out how to prevent the edges of the screen from being cut off. - Grant Grant, By default most TVs overscan inputs due to broadcast signals at the edges as the picture there is not well defined and can have white overscan lines and such. The TV compensates by overscanning which basically zooms in on the picture making (on my 46 Samsung TV) the outer 1-1.5 of the picture disappear. On my TV it was fairly simple to turn this off, I just had to label the HDMI input as DVI PC and it automatically turned off any picture processing/overscanning. Yours may be similar. Sorry if there's typos, I have a bandaged finger and it's a PITA to type with. I think I fixed all of them. Dan I found this: We recommend using the Just Scan mode with 1080i and 1080p material, which assures zero overscan and proper 1:1 pixel matching for this 1080p display. http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/lg-47lh90/4505-6482_7-33485570.html# reviewPage1 Just Scan is what I've always used which has the ghosting problem. I think I'm back to square one. Just a thought: have you approached the OEM for the TV? If you could get to some technical department they would hopefully advise if this is a setting or hardware issue. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
On 17 July 2011, at 17:54, Grant wrote: ... But at some point the 1s and 0s must be converted to some sort of an analog signal if only right behind the diode. A diode must be presented with a signal in some sort of analog form in order to illuminate, right? Digital is just a figment of our imagination after all. The pixel is either on or off. There's no way to make half of the adjacent pixel on (and the other half of that pixel off). Having said that, you may be on the right track. I hadn't looked at your photo before, so sorry for that, but it indeed looks like your telly may be doing some scaling on the image. Check for overscan / underscan settings in the TV's menus and on the remote. The button for overscan may not be at all obvious on the remote from the icon that labels it - if you can't find a button on the remote that resolves this issue, or a overscan setting in the TV's menus then check the manual. Overscan would cause this symptom, and it is such a common feature, that IMO you shouldn't pst back here again until you've identified it on your TV and checked it. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
... But at some point the 1s and 0s must be converted to some sort of an analog signal if only right behind the diode. A diode must be presented with a signal in some sort of analog form in order to illuminate, right? Digital is just a figment of our imagination after all. The pixel is either on or off. There's no way to make half of the adjacent pixel on (and the other half of that pixel off). Well, couldn't the digital information for a particular pixel mean blue, and the D/A mechanism attempts to create an analog signal that the diode would interpret as blue, but the D/A converter or the analog signal or the analog diode is affected by electric interference (which traveled from the computer to the TV along the HDMI cable) and the diode illuminates light blue instead of blue? Having said that, you may be on the right track. I hadn't looked at your photo before, so sorry for that, but it indeed looks like your telly may be doing some scaling on the image. Check for overscan / underscan settings in the TV's menus and on the remote. The button for overscan may not be at all obvious on the remote from the icon that labels it - if you can't find a button on the remote that resolves this issue, or a overscan setting in the TV's menus then check the manual. Overscan would cause this symptom, and it is such a common feature, that IMO you shouldn't pst back here again until you've identified it on your TV and checked it. You may be right about this. I can select the following aspect ratios on my TV's menu: 16:9 (this causes all 4 edges of the screen to be cut off) Just Scan (this is what I use and it fits perfectly on the screen) Set By Program (same as 16:9) 4:3 (same as 16:9 except with black boxes on the left and right) Zoom (same as 16:9 except more of the image is cut off) Cinema Zoom 1 (same as Zoom except nothing is cut off from the top of the image) I set 1920x1080 in xorg.conf but I just tried defining no resolution at all and it seems to have been set anyway: (II) RADEON(0): Output HDMI-0 using initial mode 1920x1080 The TV is an LG 47LH90 and and it is said to do 1080p. I looked for ghosting in 16:9 mode instead of Just Scan mode and strangely the shadows are there, but they're oriented top and bottom instead of left and right. I can take another photo if anyone would like to see. Why do I need to select Just Scan in order to prevent all 4 edges of the screen from being cut off? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
But at some point the 1s and 0s must be converted to some sort of an analog signal if only right behind the diode. A diode must be presented with a signal in some sort of analog form in order to illuminate, right? Digital is just a figment of our imagination after all. The pixel is either on or off. There's no way to make half of the adjacent pixel on (and the other half of that pixel off). Well, couldn't the digital information for a particular pixel mean blue, and the D/A mechanism attempts to create an analog signal that the diode would interpret as blue, but the D/A converter or the analog signal or the analog diode is affected by electric interference (which traveled from the computer to the TV along the HDMI cable) and the diode illuminates light blue instead of blue? Having said that, you may be on the right track. I hadn't looked at your photo before, so sorry for that, but it indeed looks like your telly may be doing some scaling on the image. Check for overscan / underscan settings in the TV's menus and on the remote. The button for overscan may not be at all obvious on the remote from the icon that labels it - if you can't find a button on the remote that resolves this issue, or a overscan setting in the TV's menus then check the manual. Overscan would cause this symptom, and it is such a common feature, that IMO you shouldn't pst back here again until you've identified it on your TV and checked it. You may be right about this. I can select the following aspect ratios on my TV's menu: 16:9 (this causes all 4 edges of the screen to be cut off) Just Scan (this is what I use and it fits perfectly on the screen) Set By Program (same as 16:9) 4:3 (same as 16:9 except with black boxes on the left and right) Zoom (same as 16:9 except more of the image is cut off) Cinema Zoom 1 (same as Zoom except nothing is cut off from the top of the image) I set 1920x1080 in xorg.conf but I just tried defining no resolution at all and it seems to have been set anyway: (II) RADEON(0): Output HDMI-0 using initial mode 1920x1080 The TV is an LG 47LH90 and and it is said to do 1080p. I looked for ghosting in 16:9 mode instead of Just Scan mode and strangely the shadows are there, but they're oriented top and bottom instead of left and right. I can take another photo if anyone would like to see. Why do I need to select Just Scan in order to prevent all 4 edges of the screen from being cut off? - Grant BTW I think you're on to something Stroller because the overall picture is definitely improved in 16:9 mode compared to Just Scan mode. I just need to figure out how to prevent the edges of the screen from being cut off. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
When I was using an Nvidia video card, I noticed a strange sort of fuzzy edge effect if I used nvidia-drivers. xf86-video-nouveau didn't have the same problem. Now I've switched to an ATI video card and unfortunately I have the same problem with xf86-video-ati. I tried to enable the new modesetting radeon driver in the kernel to see if that would help but it doesn't work with my HD4250 card yet. Does anyone know how to fix this? Here's a photo of the effect around the mouse cursor: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/804/cursor.jpg - Grant The image looks to me as thos would be an analog instead of an digital problem. Put all mains connectors of you PC rig into ONE wall connector with something like this (ok I miss some words here again and since a picture says more than even thousands of /missing/ words here comes an image of what I mean:): http://www.reichelt.de/Steckdosenleisten-ohne-Schalter/6-FACH-DOSE-WS-5/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=2;ARTICLE=108651;GROUPID=4281;SID=11Thz@On8AAAIAABaBBrE9f5418078c2ea9fe6608e9765d978595 Thank you for taking the time to explain. So I'm sure I understand what it is I should try, I should connect my computer's power cable and monitor's power cable to a power strip and plug that power strip into an outlet? - Grant Yepp! 100% correct! :) Good luck! :)) Best regards, mcc I gave it a try but there was no change. I tried plugging the TV and computer into a power strip and also into an isolation transformer. Any other ideas? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I gave it a try but there was no change. I tried plugging the TV and computer into a power strip and also into an isolation transformer. Any other ideas? Late to the party, but what kind of display? What connection are you using to get from the card to the display? (i.e. I've got an LCD TV which takes DVI, HDMI or VGA. I've got a few CRTs which only VGA...) -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
I gave it a try but there was no change. I tried plugging the TV and computer into a power strip and also into an isolation transformer. Any other ideas? Late to the party, but what kind of display? What connection are you using to get from the card to the display? (i.e. I've got an LCD TV which takes DVI, HDMI or VGA. I've got a few CRTs which only VGA...) It's a 47 LG LED HDTV connected via HDMI. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
meino.cra...@gmx.de writes: Hi Grant, another shot into an even much deeper dark ;) May be you have a problem here, which it is called Brummschleife in german...sorry dont know the English equivalent...may be something like buzzing loop...but this looks more like a strange translation made by google than by any other, human being ;) Anyway What you are describing that is, I think, called a ground loop in English. Cheers, Roger
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
Roger Mason rma...@mun.ca [11-07-13 18:12]: meino.cra...@gmx.de writes: Hi Grant, another shot into an even much deeper dark ;) May be you have a problem here, which it is called Brummschleife in german...sorry dont know the English equivalent...may be something like buzzing loop...but this looks more like a strange translation made by google than by any other, human being ;) Anyway What you are describing that is, I think, called a ground loop in English. Cheers, Roger Hi Roger, oh, thanks! One gap filled !!! ;))) Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
When I was using an Nvidia video card, I noticed a strange sort of fuzzy edge effect if I used nvidia-drivers. xf86-video-nouveau didn't have the same problem. Now I've switched to an ATI video card and unfortunately I have the same problem with xf86-video-ati. I tried to enable the new modesetting radeon driver in the kernel to see if that would help but it doesn't work with my HD4250 card yet. Does anyone know how to fix this? Here's a photo of the effect around the mouse cursor: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/804/cursor.jpg - Grant The image looks to me as thos would be an analog instead of an digital problem. Put all mains connectors of you PC rig into ONE wall connector with something like this (ok I miss some words here again and since a picture says more than even thousands of /missing/ words here comes an image of what I mean:): http://www.reichelt.de/Steckdosenleisten-ohne-Schalter/6-FACH-DOSE-WS-5/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=2;ARTICLE=108651;GROUPID=4281;SID=11Thz@On8AAAIAABaBBrE9f5418078c2ea9fe6608e9765d978595 Thank you for taking the time to explain. So I'm sure I understand what it is I should try, I should connect my computer's power cable and monitor's power cable to a power strip and plug that power strip into an outlet? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com [11-07-13 19:20]: When I was using an Nvidia video card, I noticed a strange sort of fuzzy edge effect if I used nvidia-drivers. xf86-video-nouveau didn't have the same problem. Now I've switched to an ATI video card and unfortunately I have the same problem with xf86-video-ati. I tried to enable the new modesetting radeon driver in the kernel to see if that would help but it doesn't work with my HD4250 card yet. Does anyone know how to fix this? Here's a photo of the effect around the mouse cursor: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/804/cursor.jpg - Grant The image looks to me as thos would be an analog instead of an digital problem. Put all mains connectors of you PC rig into ONE wall connector with something like this (ok I miss some words here again and since a picture says more than even thousands of /missing/ words here comes an image of what I mean:): http://www.reichelt.de/Steckdosenleisten-ohne-Schalter/6-FACH-DOSE-WS-5/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=2;ARTICLE=108651;GROUPID=4281;SID=11Thz@On8AAAIAABaBBrE9f5418078c2ea9fe6608e9765d978595 Thank you for taking the time to explain. So I'm sure I understand what it is I should try, I should connect my computer's power cable and monitor's power cable to a power strip and plug that power strip into an outlet? - Grant Yepp! 100% correct! :) Good luck! :)) Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
When I was using an Nvidia video card, I noticed a strange sort of fuzzy edge effect if I used nvidia-drivers. xf86-video-nouveau didn't have the same problem. Now I've switched to an ATI video card and unfortunately I have the same problem with xf86-video-ati. I tried to enable the new modesetting radeon driver in the kernel to see if that would help but it doesn't work with my HD4250 card yet. Does anyone know how to fix this? Here's a photo of the effect around the mouse cursor: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/804/cursor.jpg - Grant Hi Grant, just a shot in the dark: The image looks to me as thos would be an analog instead of an digital problem. May be both propietary drivers switch to the highest possible data transfer rate and this triggers the problem. To check, whether this may be the problem: Instruct the driver to use either low resolution or low refresh rates. Check both. If the problem changes signifiently: Change the cables. May be only a pluf is not inserted correctly. Addtionally you can move the cables arround to see whether this will change the shadows around the cursor in any way... Good luck! :) Best regards mcc Thanks for that. I'm still working on it but adding radeon.audio=0 to grub cleaned it up about 75%. - Grant It turns out the radeon.audio=0 setting disables HDMI data packets and puts the HDMI port in DVI mode. mcc, I'm starting to think you had it pretty right on. I've tried two different cables with the same result but I'm thinking this may be some sort of electrical interference issue. I deal with stuff like that in audio. There's a USB isolator which cleans the sound way up when used with a USB sound card: http://www.analog.com/en/interface/digital-isolators/adum4160/products/product.html Now I wish there was something like that for HDMI. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com [11-07-13 03:13]: When I was using an Nvidia video card, I noticed a strange sort of fuzzy edge effect if I used nvidia-drivers. xf86-video-nouveau didn't have the same problem. Now I've switched to an ATI video card and unfortunately I have the same problem with xf86-video-ati. I tried to enable the new modesetting radeon driver in the kernel to see if that would help but it doesn't work with my HD4250 card yet. Does anyone know how to fix this? Here's a photo of the effect around the mouse cursor: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/804/cursor.jpg - Grant Hi Grant, just a shot in the dark: The image looks to me as thos would be an analog instead of an digital problem. May be both propietary drivers switch to the highest possible data transfer rate and this triggers the problem. To check, whether this may be the problem: Instruct the driver to use either low resolution or low refresh rates. Check both. If the problem changes signifiently: Change the cables. May be only a pluf is not inserted correctly. Addtionally you can move the cables arround to see whether this will change the shadows around the cursor in any way... Good luck! :) Best regards mcc Thanks for that. I'm still working on it but adding radeon.audio=0 to grub cleaned it up about 75%. - Grant It turns out the radeon.audio=0 setting disables HDMI data packets and puts the HDMI port in DVI mode. mcc, I'm starting to think you had it pretty right on. I've tried two different cables with the same result but I'm thinking this may be some sort of electrical interference issue. I deal with stuff like that in audio. There's a USB isolator which cleans the sound way up when used with a USB sound card: http://www.analog.com/en/interface/digital-isolators/adum4160/products/product.html Now I wish there was something like that for HDMI. - Grant Hi Grant, another shot into an even much deeper dark ;) May be you have a problem here, which it is called Brummschleife in german...sorry dont know the English equivalent...may be something like buzzing loop...but this looks more like a strange translation made by google than by any other, human being ;) Anyway A Brummschleife happens when doing something like this: ++ +---+ --+|-(1)--+ monitor or|- mains | PC |-(2)--| amplifier |mains --+|(audio/USB/video or + or. |- -+++ another low voltage +---+---+- | thingy) | (3)(4) || __ ground ground Normally all protective earth's connection should end in ONE point: A copper rod or someting like this. BUT often the wires between them are too long or there are two or even more end points. Result: HF from near by broadcast stations, 60Hz mains frequency, ham radio station, microwave ovens and anything which can emit energy, pushes protective earth to another electrical potential than 0V. Since both, PC and -- in your case -- the monitor are using protective earth, they may be put on another, may be even varying (over time) electrical potentials. Since they are connected via a two-wire connection WITHOUT protective earth (no, the shielding is not for that purpose) the difference in the potential earth put both ends to different electrical reference points. This way you get an amplitude modulation of the signal between both endpoint. In case of 60HZ you will hear a Brummschleife sound on audio connection (a buzzing sound), in case of frequencies near those of the video signal you will get ghosts in the monitor picture. Now, how to avoid that. Hit the one who have made the protective earth connection in your house. While you are searching for that person, you can try the following: Put all mains connectors of you PC rig into ONE wall connector with something like this (ok I miss some words here again and since a picture says more than even thousands of /missing/ words here comes an image of what I mean:): http://www.reichelt.de/Steckdosenleisten-ohne-Schalter/6-FACH-DOSE-WS-5/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=2;ARTICLE=108651;GROUPID=4281;SID=11Thz@On8AAAIAABaBBrE9f5418078c2ea9fe6608e9765d978595 This way, all protective earth ends up in the same contact. No differences in the electricla potential of the protective earth anymore. Why does the those USB-isolatore-like cables help here? These small air core
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
When I was using an Nvidia video card, I noticed a strange sort of fuzzy edge effect if I used nvidia-drivers. xf86-video-nouveau didn't have the same problem. Now I've switched to an ATI video card and unfortunately I have the same problem with xf86-video-ati. I tried to enable the new modesetting radeon driver in the kernel to see if that would help but it doesn't work with my HD4250 card yet. Does anyone know how to fix this? Here's a photo of the effect around the mouse cursor: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/804/cursor.jpg - Grant Hi Grant, just a shot in the dark: The image looks to me as thos would be an analog instead of an digital problem. May be both propietary drivers switch to the highest possible data transfer rate and this triggers the problem. To check, whether this may be the problem: Instruct the driver to use either low resolution or low refresh rates. Check both. If the problem changes signifiently: Change the cables. May be only a pluf is not inserted correctly. Addtionally you can move the cables arround to see whether this will change the shadows around the cursor in any way... Good luck! :) Best regards mcc Thanks for that. I'm still working on it but adding radeon.audio=0 to grub cleaned it up about 75%. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with xf86-video-ati nvidia-drivers
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com [11-07-10 01:42]: When I was using an Nvidia video card, I noticed a strange sort of fuzzy edge effect if I used nvidia-drivers. xf86-video-nouveau didn't have the same problem. Now I've switched to an ATI video card and unfortunately I have the same problem with xf86-video-ati. I tried to enable the new modesetting radeon driver in the kernel to see if that would help but it doesn't work with my HD4250 card yet. Does anyone know how to fix this? Here's a photo of the effect around the mouse cursor: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/804/cursor.jpg - Grant Hi Grant, just a shot in the dark: The image looks to me as thos would be an analog instead of an digital problem. May be both propietary drivers switch to the highest possible data transfer rate and this triggers the problem. To check, whether this may be the problem: Instruct the driver to use either low resolution or low refresh rates. Check both. If the problem changes signifiently: Change the cables. May be only a pluf is not inserted correctly. Addtionally you can move the cables arround to see whether this will change the shadows around the cursor in any way... Good luck! :) Best regards mcc
