Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture using Dazzle Digital Video Creator 120

2005-04-05 Thread Ognjen Bezanov
Mark Knecht wrote:

Hi,
  Has anyone done this? Can you recommend some Linux apps that will
make video capture and relatively simple movie editing easy for my 12
year old? He's capturing XBox tricks and makes me boot my Gentoo
laptop back into Win XP so that he can do the capture.

  The DVC120 is visible to things like usbview but after that I don't
know where to turn. I tried Kino but it seemed very 1394 specific. I
had bad experiences with Cinelera on another platform and am not
anxious to build that unless it's significantly improved.

  I'm running a custom 2.6.9 kernel if it matters.

  Thanks in advance for your help.

Cheers,
Mark
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Search the internet, there are quite a few movie editing programs out
there that are open source and work with linux.

The biggest thing is if your capture card is supported by linux.
Generally the best support is for the conexant and bt848 chips. You have
to first find out if there is a driver for your card. Search for your
cards make and try to find out what chip it uses, then look for linux
drivers for said chip.

Once you have that Id reccommend a simple capture program to test it, if
it works then you can go on and use the editing packages. I have a bt848
chip and it captures everything jsut great (it captures at higher
resultions and with fewer dropped frames then on any M$ system i have used).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture using Dazzle Digital Video Creator 120

2005-04-04 Thread Nick Rout
I found these with a simple google:

gv4l - front end to transcode's v4l functions
streamer - front end to xawtv
ffmpeg - command line
kmediagrab
avicap

I am sure there are many many others.

actually kino will capture v4l too. 


On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 08:53 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
   Has anyone done this? Can you recommend some Linux apps that will
 make video capture and relatively simple movie editing easy for my 12
 year old? He's capturing XBox tricks and makes me boot my Gentoo
 laptop back into Win XP so that he can do the capture.
 
   The DVC120 is visible to things like usbview but after that I don't
 know where to turn. I tried Kino but it seemed very 1394 specific. I
 had bad experiences with Cinelera on another platform and am not
 anxious to build that unless it's significantly improved.
 
   I'm running a custom 2.6.9 kernel if it matters.
 
   Thanks in advance for your help.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture using Dazzle Digital Video Creator 120

2005-04-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Apr 4, 2005 12:34 PM, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I found these with a simple google:
 
 gv4l - front end to transcode's v4l functions
 streamer - front end to xawtv
 ffmpeg - command line
 kmediagrab
 avicap
 
 I am sure there are many many others.
 
 actually kino will capture v4l too.
 

Nick,
   Thanks. I was looking at a couple of these yesterday. I think they
might work, or at least do part of the job, if I could figure out how
to tell them about the Dazzle device. So far that eludes me.

   How do I tell Kino about USB devices? Don't feel the need for big
explanations if you can jsut point me toward a web site somewhere.

thanks much,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture using Dazzle Digital Video Creator 120

2005-04-04 Thread Nick Rout
I assume it is a video for linux (v4l) or v4l2 driver, in which case
when the modules loads it should create a device called something like
/dev/v4l/video0

What is the module that gets loaded when you plug the thing in anyway?
(lsmod before and after should tell you)

Take a look around in the /dev directory, and look at dmesg and your
kernel logs when you plug the device in.

xawtv is probably the simplest front end to see that you are in fact
picking up a video signal. 

$ xawtv -c /dev/v4l/video0 

actually I just noticed xawtv also has a hwscan option like this:

$ xawtv -hwscan
This is xawtv-3.86, running on Linux/i686 (2.6.11-gentoo-r2)
looking for available devices
port 105-105
type : Xvideo, image scaler
name : NV10 Video Overlay

port 106-137
type : Xvideo, image scaler
name : NV05 Video Blitter

port 138-138[ -xvport 138 ]
type : Xvideo, video overlay
name : NVIDIA Video Interface Port

/dev/v4l/video0: OK [ -device /dev/v4l/video0 ]
type : v4l2
name : BT878 video ( *** UNKNOWN/GENER
flags: overlay capture tuner


Which should help you find the device.

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:16:41 -0700
Mark Knecht wrote:

 On Apr 4, 2005 12:34 PM, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I found these with a simple google:
  
  gv4l - front end to transcode's v4l functions
  streamer - front end to xawtv
  ffmpeg - command line
  kmediagrab
  avicap
  
  I am sure there are many many others.
  
  actually kino will capture v4l too.
  
 
 Nick,
Thanks. I was looking at a couple of these yesterday. I think they
 might work, or at least do part of the job, if I could figure out how
 to tell them about the Dazzle device. So far that eludes me.
 
How do I tell Kino about USB devices? Don't feel the need for big
 explanations if you can jsut point me toward a web site somewhere.
 
 thanks much,
 Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture using Dazzle Digital Video Creator 120

2005-04-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Apr 4, 2005 4:54 PM, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I assume it is a video for linux (v4l) or v4l2 driver, in which case
 when the modules loads it should create a device called something like
 /dev/v4l/video0

Humm...could that be a problem? I'll have to look and see if Video for
Linux is even compiled.

 
 What is the module that gets loaded when you plug the thing in anyway?
 (lsmod before and after should tell you)

OK, the Gentoo laptop is in Win XP doing Pro Tools work at the moment
so I'll try this first on an FC2 machien sitting here. Maybe it will
tell me enough to make forward progress.

On this machine I see no change in lsmod before and after plugging the
device in.

 
 Take a look around in the /dev directory, and look at dmesg and your
 kernel logs when you plug the device in.

From the end of dmesg:

usb 1-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7

There is apparently no /dev/v4l directory on this box:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]$ ls /dev/v4l
ls: /dev/v4l: No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]$

There is a /dev/video0

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]$ ls /dev/v
Display all 152 possibilities? (y or n)
vbivcs24  vcs44  vcs7   vcsa26 vcsa46 vcsa9
vbi0   vcs25  vcs45  vcs8   vcsa27 vcsa47 video
vbi1   vcs26  vcs46  vcs9   vcsa28 vcsa48 video0
vbi2   vcs27  vcs47  vcsa   vcsa29 vcsa49 video1
vbi3   vcs28  vcs48  vcsa1  vcsa3  vcsa5  video1394
vcsvcs29  vcs49  vcsa10 vcsa30 vcsa50 video2
vcs1   vcs3   vcs5   vcsa11 vcsa31 vcsa51 video3
vcs10  vcs30  vcs50  vcsa12 vcsa32 vcsa52 vmmon
vcs11  vcs31  vcs51  vcsa13 vcsa33 vcsa53 vnet0
vcs12  vcs32  vcs52  vcsa14 vcsa34 vcsa54 vnet1
vcs13  vcs33  vcs53  vcsa15 vcsa35 vcsa55 vnet2
vcs14  vcs34  vcs54  vcsa16 vcsa36 vcsa56 vnet3
vcs15  vcs35  vcs55  vcsa17 vcsa37 vcsa57 vpcmouse
vcs16  vcs36  vcs56  vcsa18 vcsa38 vcsa58 vsys
vcs17  vcs37  vcs57  vcsa19 vcsa39 vcsa59 vttuner
vcs18  vcs38  vcs58  vcsa2  vcsa4  vcsa6  vtx
vcs19  vcs39  vcs59  vcsa20 vcsa40 vcsa60 vtx0
vcs2   vcs4   vcs6   vcsa21 vcsa41 vcsa61 vtx1
vcs20  vcs40  vcs60  vcsa22 vcsa42 vcsa62 vtx2
vcs21  vcs41  vcs61  vcsa23 vcsa43 vcsa63 vtx3
vcs22  vcs42  vcs62  vcsa24 vcsa44 vcsa7
vcs23  vcs43  vcs63  vcsa25 vcsa45 vcsa8
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dev]$

Maybe FC2 is a bit different.

 
 xawtv is probably the simplest front end to see that you are in fact
 picking up a video signal.

Need to boot the Gentoo laptop now. xawtv is not on this machien either...

Back in a few...

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture using Dazzle Digital Video Creator 120

2005-04-04 Thread Mark Knecht
More or less the same results on my Gentoo laptop. I'm here now:

1) No changes in modules loaded
2) No /dev/v4l directory
3) Strange dmesg results:

usb 5-2: new high speed USB device using address 3
usb usb4: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb4: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb4: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb2: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb2: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb2: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
...

I didn't look at dmesg before I plugged it in so maybe these were here
earlier. I don't know. The device is visible in usbview:

Inst Video Album +
Manufacturer: Pinnacle
Speed: 480Mb/s (high)
USB Version:  2.00
Device Class: 00(ifc )
Device Subclass: 00
Device Protocol: 00
Maximum Default Endpoint Size: 64
Number of Configurations: 1
Vendor Id: 2304
Product Id: 0302
Revision Number:  0.00

Config Number: 1
Number of Interfaces: 1
Attributes: c0
MaxPower Needed: 100mA

Interface Number: 0
Name: (none)
Alternate Number: 0
Class: ff(vend.) 
Sub Class: 0
Protocol: 0
Number of Endpoints: 4

and then more stuff.When I disconnect it I see this in dmesg:

usb 5-2: USB disconnect, address 3
usb usb4: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb4: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb4: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb2: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb2: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb2: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb1: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb1: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb1: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb4: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb4: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb4: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb2: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb2: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb2: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb1: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb1: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb1: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
flash mark $ 

Doesn't look very good. (!!) ;-)

Plugging it back in I get:

usb 5-2: new high speed USB device using address 4
usb usb4: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb4: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb4: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb2: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb2: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb2: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb1: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb1: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb1: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb4: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb4: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb4: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb2: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb2: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb2: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb1: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb1: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
usb usb1: string descriptor 0 read error: -113
flash mark $

I'll do an emerge sync and make sure nothing is way out of date.

I'm not sure what I should be looking for in my kernel's .config file:

flash linux # cat .config | grep VIDEO
CONFIG_IEEE1394_VIDEO1394=m
CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV=m
# CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848 is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_PMS is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_BWQCAM is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_CQCAM is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_W9966 is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_CPIA is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_SAA5246A is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_SAA5249 is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_STRADIS is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_ZORAN is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_SAA7134 is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_MXB is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_DPC is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_HEXIUM_ORION is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_HEXIUM_GEMINI is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_CX88 is not set
# CONFIG_VIDEO_OVCAMCHIP is not set
CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y
flash linux # cat .config | grep V4   
flash linux # 


Thanks much,
Mark

On Apr 4, 2005 5:20 PM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Apr 4, 2005 4:54 PM, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I assume it is a video for linux (v4l) or v4l2 driver, in which case
  when the modules loads it should create a device called something like
  /dev/v4l/video0
 
 Humm...could that be a problem? I'll have to look and see if Video for
 Linux is even compiled.
 
 
  What is the module that gets loaded when you plug the thing in anyway?
  (lsmod before and after should tell you)
 
 OK, the Gentoo laptop is in Win XP doing Pro Tools work at the moment
 so I'll try this first on an FC2 machien sitting here. Maybe it will
 tell me enough to make forward progress.
 
 On this machine I see no change in lsmod before and after plugging the
 device in.
 
 
  Take a look around in the /dev directory, and look at dmesg and your
  kernel logs when you plug the device in.
 
 From the end of dmesg:
 
 usb 1-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd 

Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture using Dazzle Digital Video Creator 120

2005-04-04 Thread Nick Rout
Mark, I had assumed that you had ascertained that the device is
supported in linux.

Maybe it isn't?

Brief goolging, and searching the usb linux database at http://qbik.ch
is not promising.


On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:35:29 -0700
Mark Knecht wrote:

 More or less the same results on my Gentoo laptop. I'm here now:
 
 1) No changes in modules loaded
 2) No /dev/v4l directory
 3) Strange dmesg results:
 
 
 I'm not sure what I should be looking for in my kernel's .config file:
 
 flash linux # cat .config | grep VIDEO
 CONFIG_IEEE1394_VIDEO1394=m
 CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV=m
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848 is not set
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_PMS is not set
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_BWQCAM is not set
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_CQCAM is not set
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_W9966 is not set
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_CPIA is not set
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_SAA5246A is not set
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_SAA5249 is not set
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_STRADIS is not set
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_ZORAN is not set
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_SAA7134 is not set
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_MXB is not set
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_DPC is not set
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_HEXIUM_ORION is not set
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_HEXIUM_GEMINI is not set
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_CX88 is not set
 # CONFIG_VIDEO_OVCAMCHIP is not set

It would pay to make all of those as modules and see if any work.


 CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y
 flash linux # cat .config | grep V4   
 flash linux # 
 
 
 Thanks much,
 Mark
 
   Christchurch
  
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wow you know it? cool! clear blue skies, nice autumn day today

  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture using Dazzle Digital Video Creator 120

2005-04-04 Thread Mark Knecht
On Apr 4, 2005 5:58 PM, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark, I had assumed that you had ascertained that the device is
 supported in linux.

No - my 12 year old son wanted the device, earned the money, and
bought it. His PC is Linux (FC2 for simplicity) and I told him that if
it didn't work he could use one of my windows boxes. Now I'm trying to
get him off my box and onto his Linux machine.

 
 Maybe it isn't?
 
 Brief goolging, and searching the usb linux database at http://qbik.ch
 is not promising.

That's the way I feel right now. Cannot tell if it's a no support
item, or somethign else. That's why I came here - hoping that someone
would just pop up and tell me yea or nea.

  More or less the same results on my Gentoo laptop. I'm here now:
 
 SNIP
 
 It would pay to make all of those as modules and see if any work.

Where do I set up Video for Linux?

Christchurch
  
   Ah...Christchurch...I love that town.
 
 wow you know it? cool! clear blue skies, nice autumn day today

Yeah. I spent 4 weeks down there 15 or so years ago. Great trip. did a
lot of home stays on the south island. didn't spend too much time on
the noth island. Really enjoyed Christchurch and especially
Queenstown. Great place you guys have. Would love to come back.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture using Dazzle Digital Video Creator 120

2005-04-04 Thread Nick Rout

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 18:14:23 -0700
Mark Knecht wrote:

  It would pay to make all of those as modules and see if any work.
 
 Where do I set up Video for Linux?

make menuconfig then choose:

device drivers
multimedia devices
video for linux


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Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture using Dazzle Digital Video Creator 120

2005-04-04 Thread creighto
I bought a Dazzle 80 at a yard sale for $2, only to find that it doesn't
work in Linux  doesn't work well in Windows.  I doubt that things have
changed much in the past 2 months.

Creighton
 Mark, I had assumed that you had ascertained that the device is
 supported in linux.

 Maybe it isn't?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture using Dazzle Digital Video Creator 120

2005-04-04 Thread Mark Knecht
Yes, I'm likely going to find out the same thing for the 120. The 80
is listed as not working on the Linux-USB site, but of course you
would not have had that info at the garage sale. ;-)

The 120 actually worked quite well under XP.

At least you only blew $2, right?  I'm letting my son blow my best
Linux laptop with this device, al least in the short term.

Thanks for the response,
Mark

P.S. - Darn, it's been 6 months since I built a kernel for my laptop.
I've forgotten how!!! :-) :-(

On Apr 4, 2005 7:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I bought a Dazzle 80 at a yard sale for $2, only to find that it doesn't
 work in Linux  doesn't work well in Windows.  I doubt that things have
 changed much in the past 2 months.
 
 Creighton
  Mark, I had assumed that you had ascertained that the device is
  supported in linux.
 
  Maybe it isn't?
 
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