Re: [gentoo-user] Java Version

2007-08-28 Thread Abraham Marín Pérez
sean escribió: Abraham Marín Pérez wrote: The instructions on Gentoo's site differ a bit from the actual results. eselect java-nsplugin list results as below Available 32-bit Java browser plugins Available 64-bit Java browser plugins No numbered options as to choose one. I am on AMD64 and

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Pongracz Istvan
2007. 08. 28, kedd keltezéssel 01.02-kor Norberto Bensa ezt írta: Quoting Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: there is no useable desktop search engine for linux. That's the best thing about opensource!!! Code one yourself :-P For comfortable people: there are alternatives, like windows,

Re: [gentoo-user] no shorewall

2007-08-28 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, William Kenworthy wrote: Checking the obvious: you have gone through and manually checked that the modules are still being built? Yes. There has been some renaming going on within netfilter that just using oldconfig misses a few (leaves them unselected, but didnt ask if

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 27 August 2007, Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!': Can you imagine what makes a software consumes five hundrend Megabits of memory? 1. Unused memory is wasted. 2. 64MiB ( 512Mb) is not that much in the modern era. Or

Re: [gentoo-user] Default group for users

2007-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 27 August 2007, Mick wrote: There's two ways of doing this, either new users all have the same inital primary group, or they get one based on their user name. The second is preferred as homw dirs are then not open by default like they would be if they were all owned by the users

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: In one word, there is no useable desktop search engine for linux. they are called 'locate', 'find' and 'grep'. good tools, fast tools. Feel the love, people If you know how to use them, you'll have a lot of fun. What is this desktop

Re: [gentoo-user] The big clean up

2007-08-28 Thread Noud Aldenhoven
Thank you all, This seems to work pretty good. I reemerged and unmerged most things using emerge --depclean and rebuild it with revdep-rebuild. Ran prelink, but I thought it didn't show up some forgotten links. Looks like this system is pretty clean again. Thank you! Noud -- :3 )~ --

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:20:46 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: 4. Have you used an application based of the Strigi indexer? That's what's going to be used for KDE 4.0, and I really haven't heard many complaints about it. There's also Recoll, which I found to use a lot of disk space for

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 28 August 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: In one word, there is no useable desktop search engine for linux. they are called 'locate', 'find' and 'grep'. good tools, fast tools. Feel the love, people Yup but not so suitable for users

Re: [gentoo-user] Shutting down WLAN and network

2007-08-28 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Michael Gisbers wrote: Am Montag 27 August 2007 schrieb Noud Aldenhoven: On 8/27/07, Michael Gisbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag 27 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: Hi! I've already tried my luck on gentoo-laptop but that list seems to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Default group for users

2007-08-28 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 27 August 2007, Mick wrote: There's two ways of doing this, either new users all have the same inital primary group, or they get one based on their user name. The second is preferred as homw dirs are then not open by default like

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!': Last time I did a file count in my home directory, it came up with 170,000 files (including sub-directories). It's a pain to keep that amount of data organised in a

Re: [gentoo-user] Default group for users

2007-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Mick wrote: ch* and other user/group related commands out of sys-apps/coreutils There you go!  I learn something new every day.  I used to modify these files by hand and now I find out that there's a batch command available too. heh, I know the feeling. My day job

Re: [gentoo-user] Java Version

2007-08-28 Thread Stroller
On 28 Aug 2007, at 07:06, Abraham Marín Pérez wrote: ... Your eix commands do not work, but here is the output of java - version Merge gentoolkit and repeat those commands, they are the absolute key ;-). eix isn't in gentoolkit. $ eix eix [I] app-portage/eix Available

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Stroller
On 28 Aug 2007, at 08:11, Alan McKinnon wrote: If you know how to use them, you'll have a lot of fun. What is this desktop search engine thingy whereof the OP speaks? I do not know of such a thing... It's like locate, except it indexes the contents of files (rather than just the names)

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Alan E. Davis
I have used glimpse for indexing my email archive. It works pretty well, but requires indexing runs and also the index files are quite large. Good, though. And for a bonus, it comes with agrep, if I recall correctly, a fantastic almost grep tool for somewhat fuzzy searches. Recently, on my

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Stroller wrote: On 28 Aug 2007, at 08:11, Alan McKinnon wrote: If you know how to use them, you'll have a lot of fun. What is this desktop search engine thingy whereof the OP speaks? I do not know of such a thing... It's like locate, except it indexes the

[gentoo-user] openvpn and nfsmount

2007-08-28 Thread Patrick Holthaus
Hello! I am having difficulties in setting up nfs with my laptop. I have an openvpn server running at home that can be reached via dynamic dns from the outside world. Now i would like to mount my nfs exports from everywhere I am. These exports are only available in the vpn subnet (10.8.0.*).

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Tuesday 28 August 2007 08:00:17 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Stroller wrote: On 28 Aug 2007, at 08:11, Alan McKinnon wrote: If you know how to use them, you'll have a lot of fun. What is this desktop search engine thingy whereof the OP speaks? I do not know of

[gentoo-user] Shorewall ip_forwarding

2007-08-28 Thread Aleksey V. Kunitskiy
Hi, I have problem visiting web-sites like [1] from my computers in the local net. I have Gentoo Hardened powered server. From server I can open it, but from windows linux machines on the local net I can't. I have simple masq shorewall configuration and ip_forwarding=1: enigma alex # cat

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Stroller
On 28 Aug 2007, at 13:00, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Stroller wrote: On 28 Aug 2007, at 08:11, Alan McKinnon wrote: If you know how to use them, you'll have a lot of fun. What is this desktop search engine thingy whereof the OP speaks? I do not know of such a thing...

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Steen Eugen Poulsen
Alan McKinnon skrev: What is this desktop search engine thingy whereof the OP speaks? I do not know of such a thing... Desktop search engines is this centuries wheel invention. It's simply put a major breakthrough in how we work with our desktop. Now the wheel didn't start out all that nice

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound

2007-08-28 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:54:23 +0200 Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:03:55 +0200 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What concerns me is that alsamixer nevers shows a volume control on Master anymore, and amixer says: Simple mixer control 'Master',0

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Cipher van Byte
As far as I'm concerned the structure of directories and links (hard or symbolic) were invented to eliminate the _need_ of having such searching engines. I've got every file in directory that it belongs to, and I do have tmp directory where I put files that does not belong to any category on my

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread b.n.
Shaochun Wang ha scritto: Hi guys: I wouldn't like, but i have to say that all current available linux desktop search engines are rubbish. Keep reading, and you'll know why. 1. Beagle is full of buggy. Can you imagine what makes a software consumes five hundrend Megabits of memory? On my

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 28 August 2007, Cipher van Byte wrote: As far as I'm concerned the structure of directories and links (hard or symbolic) were invented to eliminate the _need_ of having such searching engines. I've got every file in directory that it belongs to, and I do have tmp directory where I put

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound

2007-08-28 Thread b.n.
Dan Farrell ha scritto: If you change the alsa driver source ,you may want to uninstall, then reinstall alsa-utils after clearing /etc/asound.state. But i do think Hans is onto something here... Solved. It was actually a very mundane hardware issue (cables). And yes, Hans is right. At

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread felix
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 07:54:27PM +0200, Cipher van Byte wrote: As far as I'm concerned the structure of directories and links (hard or symbolic) were invented to eliminate the _need_ of having such searching engines. I've got every file in directory that it belongs to, and I do have tmp

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Steen Eugen Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!': Desktop search engines is this centuries wheel invention. It's simply put a major breakthrough in how we work with our desktop. LOL Wow, I've got my dose of

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!': Think of secretaries who aren't interested in computers but need to use them. Think of musicians who want to use computers for composing without really under them.

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Mark Shields
On 8/28/07, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shaochun Wang ha scritto: Hi guys: I wouldn't like, but i have to say that all current available linux desktop search engines are rubbish. Keep reading, and you'll know why. 1. Beagle is full of buggy. Can you imagine what makes a software

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Mark Shields
On 8/28/07, Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/28/07, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shaochun Wang ha scritto: Hi guys: I wouldn't like, but i have to say that all current available linux desktop search engines are rubbish. Keep reading, and you'll know why. 1.

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread felix
There's another advantage to a desktop search engine: it can know about different file formats. Suppose you want to find everything which references New York City. If you want to use traditional find + grep + locate, you will have to throw file in the mix plus specialized grep to deal with pdfs,

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Billy McCann
deskbar-applet serves me fine. :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-28 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:41:39 +0200 brullo nulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC, Intel onboard videocards were well supported open source... They do a really nice job on 2D in my experience. But if you are accelerating 3d opengl in hardware, like glxgears for example, expect artifacts to the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-28 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:23:23 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:05:24 +0200, b.n. wrote: The onboard Intels were a good lifesaver. I'm considering an Intel Core Duo... what's wrong with them that AMD does right? :) Nothing AFAICT. I have a Core2Duo

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-28 Thread Dan Farrell
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:36:38 +0200 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say if you stick with AMD, try the boxed cooler and test it. Since it's not a dedicated silent system, it might be good enough. If you switch to Intel, buy a good cooler from the beginning. Furthermore, be sure

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread felix
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 11:39:44PM +0200, b.n. wrote: His knowledge of English grammar and vocabulary has nothing to do with the actual *contents* of his mail, it has to do with just the errors of spelling and grammar. I'm sure he would have done the same in his mother language. ... Let's

Re: [gentoo-user] Treason uncloaked! solution?

2007-08-28 Thread Dan Farrell
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:17:17 +0200 Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:55:06 -0500 Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It usually means that the other side of the TCP connection reduced the window to zero size, thus leading stupid TCP stacks to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: i586 install

2007-08-28 Thread Dan Farrell
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:53:28 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: journaling is just a waste of space and time. not to mention breaking compatibility with older bootloaders. not that it's likely to matter, but yet another con. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Steen Eugen Poulsen
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. skrev: LOL Wow, I've got my dose of hype for the next month (or more). Sometimes it's not that hard to see the future if you have a clue, some things is just darn good. Fire, Wheel, Internet, The Web, Desktop Search Engines. People all laughed at them, but they

Re: [gentoo-user] Server Network Configuration

2007-08-28 Thread Dan Farrell
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:49:51 -0700 (PDT) BRM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll have to check into iproute2. Seems interesting...won't be able to try until tonight (after I get home), but will certainly share the results. Thanks, Ben. Ben, iproute2 is the latest and greatest (and

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread b.n.
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 11:39:44PM +0200, b.n. wrote: His knowledge of English grammar and vocabulary has nothing to do with the actual *contents* of his mail, it has to do with just the errors of spelling and grammar. I'm sure he would have done the same

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?

2007-08-28 Thread b.n.
Dan Farrell ha scritto: On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:41:39 +0200 brullo nulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC, Intel onboard videocards were well supported open source... They do a really nice job on 2D in my experience. But if you are accelerating 3d opengl in hardware, like glxgears for

[gentoo-user] where is liblapack.so.3 ?

2007-08-28 Thread Lingyun Yang
Hi all, I am using a program doing scientific calculations, it requires liblapack.so.3. But where is it ? I have installed lapack-atlas 3.7.1, no this lib found. Thanks. Best regards, Lingyun

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread felix
On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 01:50:49AM +0200, b.n. wrote: No, I don't know anything about his background: but most importantly, *I shouldn't have to know anything*. I see. Cultural monotheism, decided by you. It couldn't possibly work the other way 'round, could it, that maybe he shouldn't have

Re: [gentoo-user] linux desktop search engines are ugly!

2007-08-28 Thread Daniel da Veiga
I see only one question (the one about memory hungry Beagle) at the OP post, and the answer is: It may be loading the whole index in memory, thus allowing faster searches. Unhappy, get more memory, or change software. Oh no, but he already concluded that all DSE for linux are bad. Strange, I used