[gentoo-user] Re: portage-utils not updating...

2012-06-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 08/06/12 19:28, Jarry wrote:

Hi,
I just noticed there is new stable portage-utils ebuild
(for amd64) but my system does not want to update it


Is it in your world file?  If not, either add it, or add 
--with-bdeps=y in the emerge command.





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: portage-utils not updating...

2012-06-08 Thread Jarry

On 08-Jun-12 18:38, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

I just noticed there is new stable portage-utils ebuild
(for amd64) but my system does not want to update it


Is it in your world file?  If not, either add it, or add
--with-bdeps=y in the emerge command.


This solves the issue, but it is strange: portage-utils are
not in my world file, so why are they installed? I suppose
this ebuild was maybe included in system at the time of
installation and later removed. But if it is so, why is
this orphaned package not uninstalled whenever I run
emerge --depclean?

Jarry
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: portage-utils not updating...

2012-06-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 21:28:19 +0200
Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 08-Jun-12 18:38, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
  I just noticed there is new stable portage-utils ebuild
  (for amd64) but my system does not want to update it
 
  Is it in your world file?  If not, either add it, or add
  --with-bdeps=y in the emerge command.
 
 This solves the issue, but it is strange: portage-utils are
 not in my world file, so why are they installed? I suppose
 this ebuild was maybe included in system at the time of
 installation and later removed. But if it is so, why is
 this orphaned package not uninstalled whenever I run
 emerge --depclean?

It's not orphaned, and AFAIK portage-utils was never in @system.

But pambase DEPENDs on portage-utils, do you have pambase installed?

Portage's default behaviour is to ignore build-time deps for emerges
and consider them for --depclean. This makes sense and avoids
unnecessary compiles if an update is only required to build something
else, not merely to run it. You appear to have hit this exact thing.

equery depends portage-utils will tell you the depends, then you can
look in each of those ebuilds to see what kind of dependancy it is. 


-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




[gentoo-user] Re: portage-utils not updating...

2012-06-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 08/06/12 22:57, Alan McKinnon wrote:

equery depends portage-utils will tell you the depends, then you can
look in each of those ebuilds to see what kind of dependancy it is.


This is actually a much more accurate way to see what pulls a package in:

  emerge -pv --depclean portage-utils