Re: [gentoo-user] File system full issues

2006-02-17 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
Le jeudi 16 février 2006 à 16:32 +, Neil Bothwick a écrit :
 On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:50:01 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
 
   I found xdiskusage to be a very practical tool to findout where space
   is wasted on a disk. 

[...]
 Filelight is another useful program here... and with more eye-candy :)
Stupid question : Is there a gnome equivalent ? (I like candy !)
Obvious answer : apparently not easily found with Google. But I just ask
to be proven wrong...

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Re: [gentoo-user] File system full issues

2006-02-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 16:19:22 +0100, Frédéric Grosshans wrote:

  Filelight is another useful program here... and with more eye-candy :)

 Stupid question : Is there a gnome equivalent ?

Not that I know of.

 (I like candy !)

So do I, but I don't like GNOME

SCNR :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] File system full issues

2006-02-17 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
Le vendredi 17 février 2006 à 16:07 +, Neil Bothwick wrote, using 

Sylpheed-Claws 2.0.0 (GTK+ 2.8.12;
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
 So do I, but I don't like GNOME
 SCNR :)

But apparently, you like GTK+ software enough to use it to write this
Gnome-bashing answer ;) 

SCNR ...

Fred

PS: I know GTK != Gnome. I suppose you use XFCE. 



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Re: [gentoo-user] File system full issues

2006-02-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:49:07 +0100, Frédéric Grosshans wrote:

  So do I, but I don't like GNOME
  SCNR :)
 
 But apparently, you like GTK+ software enough to use it to write this
 Gnome-bashing answer ;) 

Good catch :)

 PS: I know GTK != Gnome. I suppose you use XFCE. 

I use KDE for the desktop, but whatever program best suits the task in
hand. I also use The GIMP, Gnucash, VMWare and Unison, and probably
several other GTK apps I can't think of right now.

I'd say it was impossible to limit yourself to only GTK or only QT
without severely limiting your software choices.


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Re: [gentoo-user] File system full issues

2006-02-16 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
Le mercredi 15 février 2006 à 04:42 -0800, Mark Knecht a écrit :

 OK, good info - but what can I remove? Or more important how can I
 find what's talking up too much space. 

I know you've already solved that problem, but I think the following
might be interesting.

I found xdiskusage to be a very practical tool to findout where space is
wasted on a disk. It's basically a tool giving a graphical output to du,
showing how the space is shared by directory and subdirectories (and
files with the -a option).

Fred

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Re: [gentoo-user] File system full issues

2006-02-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On 2/16/06, Frédéric Grosshans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Le mercredi 15 février 2006 à 04:42 -0800, Mark Knecht a écrit :

  OK, good info - but what can I remove? Or more important how can I
  find what's talking up too much space.

 I know you've already solved that problem, but I think the following
 might be interesting.

 I found xdiskusage to be a very practical tool to findout where space is
 wasted on a disk. It's basically a tool giving a graphical output to du,
 showing how the space is shared by directory and subdirectories (and
 files with the -a option).

 Fred

Thanks Fred. It looks like a helpful little app. I certainly would
have found the offending MythTV buffer file more quickly with it.

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] File system full issues

2006-02-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 07:50:01 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

  I found xdiskusage to be a very practical tool to findout where space
  is wasted on a disk. It's basically a tool giving a graphical output
  to du, showing how the space is shared by directory and
  subdirectories (and files with the -a option).

 Thanks Fred. It looks like a helpful little app. I certainly would
 have found the offending MythTV buffer file more quickly with it.

Filelight is another useful program here... and with more eye-candy :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] File system full issues

2006-02-15 Thread Mike Williams
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 11:23, Mark Knecht wrote:
    On this machine the file system reports it's 100% full even after
 I've removed 500MB of stuff. What can I do to clean this up?

Remove more.

I suspect that's an ext{2,3} filesystem, which has, by default, 5% set aside 
for use only by the superuser. You've gone into that 5%, and 500MB isn't 
enough to get you out, hence it still appears 100% full.

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Re: [gentoo-user] File system full issues

2006-02-15 Thread Pshem Kowalczyk
On 16/02/06, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
On this machine the file system reports it's 100% full even after
 I've removed 500MB of stuff. What can I do to clean this up?


 dragonfly / # df
 Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
 /dev/hda8  9621848   9161608 0 100% /


If the filesystem is ext2 or ext3 it's pretty likely that this 500MB
is the 5% reserved for root :-)
So you can't see it, but the space is there. Google around this, as
I'm not sure whether root should see this 5% as available or not.

regards
pshemko

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Re: [gentoo-user] File system full issues

2006-02-15 Thread Mark Knecht
On 2/15/06, Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 15 February 2006 11:23, Mark Knecht wrote:
  On this machine the file system reports it's 100% full even after
  I've removed 500MB of stuff. What can I do to clean this up?

 Remove more.

 I suspect that's an ext{2,3} filesystem, which has, by default, 5% set aside
 for use only by the superuser. You've gone into that 5%, and 500MB isn't
 enough to get you out, hence it still appears 100% full.

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OK, good info - but what can I remove? Or more important how can I
find what's talking up too much space. /home, /usr/portage and /var
are on partitions of their own. There is about 200MB of Java stuff in
/opt and I deleted everything in /tmp before I wrote the first note.

I do appear to have about 250MB of KDE stuff in /usr/kde. We don't use
KDE but there are some KDE type apps, like k3b, on this machine.

I have about 1.1GB in /usr/lib but I wouldn't know how to touch that by hand.

/usr/share has about 850MB in it. Again, I wouldn't know how to touch
that by hand.

I appear to have kdebase, kdelibs, kdebase-pam and kde-env installed.
Which of those could come out without causing major problems for a
non-KDE user? (I did install KDE about a month ago, just to try it
out, but we don't use it. I suppose I could remove them all and then
go through a revdep-rebuild process...

The issue here is that this machine is both my wife's desktop machine
as well as our MythTV backend server. There is no video on the
machine. It's kept elsewhere on an NFS mount, but MythTV has stopped
working and the best guess the Myth folks had so far was lack of disk
space. When I first looked the machine was very full, but now with the
current clear space it's still having troubles.

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] File system full issues

2006-02-15 Thread Jürgen Pierau

Mark Knecht wrote:


OK, good info - but what can I remove? Or more important how can I
find what's talking up too much space. /home, /usr/portage and /var
are on partitions of their own. There is about 200MB of Java stuff in
/opt and I deleted everything in /tmp before I wrote the first note.

I do appear to have about 250MB of KDE stuff in /usr/kde. We don't use
KDE but there are some KDE type apps, like k3b, on this machine.
 

One thing that frequently gets me is /usr/src. Every version of the 
Linux kernel takes up something between 200 and 300 MB (more depending 
on how you formatted the underlying partition). So if you inadvertently 
have created a nice archive of kernel sources from the last two years in 
there, unmerge all the old ones. sys-kernel/gentoo-sources is a slotted 
install, so each update ADDS the new kernel sources and doesn't remove 
the old ones.


Just my 0.02$
Jürgen
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