Re: [gentoo-user] Please confirm my understanding
On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:41:15 -0400 C.Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Now for the question. I need confirmation of my understanding. In the make.conf file when setting up the USE flags, I include anything that I want to have compiled into the programs that I install, correct? If I don't want an option to be compiled in all programs, I prefix that with a - sign. If I want an option for a specific package, I use the package.use file. As Willie and Mark stated, I'll add a - sort of. So, if I don't want to compile gnome, then I use -gnome as one of the keywords. I don't use gnome, never have, never will, but there are gnome applications that I like - gnumeric to name one, plus there are a few gnome games. So, is it my best bet to include -gnome as a keyword in my make.conf USE statement and the add it in the package.use file for those applications that need it? I'm pretty much with you on using gnumeric and not gnome. Same with kworldclock but not kde. And I started out using - -gnome and -kde. But have just stopped the practice. I just use -* at the beginning of my USE flags and select all the things I do want. The problem with -* is it makes everything minimal so you have to spend a lot of time adding in the things you want. To me that's preferable to getting a lot of what I don't want tagging along. Also, it insure that PAM stays off my system. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Please confirm my understanding
On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 09:41:15PM -0400, C.Beamer wrote: Now for the question. I need confirmation of my understanding. In the make.conf file when setting up the USE flags, I include anything that I want to have compiled into the programs that I install, correct? If I don't want an option to be compiled in all programs, I prefix that with a - sign. If I want an option for a specific package, I use the package.use file. So, if I don't want to compile gnome, then I use -gnome as one of the keywords. I don't use gnome, never have, never will, but there are gnome applications that I like - gnumeric to name one, plus there are a few gnome games. So, is it my best bet to include -gnome as a keyword in my make.conf USE statement and the add it in the package.use file for those applications that need it? I'm using gnome here as an example, but if my understanding is correct, I assume this would apply to anything. And yes, I know that you can declare temporary use flags when compiling a package. Regards, Colleen My understanding is that there are two types of dependencies: required and optional. For example, gnumeric will necessarily depend on gnome, whether you like it or not. So even with the -gnome flag set if will bring in the necessary libraries for it to function. On my system, I run into a similar thing with Rosegarden. It uses kdelibs and qt. So even when I specified -kde in make.conf, when I installed Rosegarden, kdelibs gets installed too. I think that if you don't, in general, need gnome functionality, than -gnome should be fine in a global sense. Even if you don't explicitly put it in package.use the package that necessarily depend on gnome will install it as a dependency anyway. HTH W -- Calvin: Can you make a living playing silly games? His Dad: Actually, you can be among the most overpaid people on the planet. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 5 days, 9:21 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Please confirm my understanding
On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 09:41:15PM -0400, C.Beamer wrote: Now for the question. I need confirmation of my understanding. In the make.conf file when setting up the USE flags, I include anything that I want to have compiled into the programs that I install, correct? If I don't want an option to be compiled in all programs, I prefix that with a - sign. If I want an option for a specific package, I use the package.use file. So, if I don't want to compile gnome, then I use -gnome as one of the keywords. I don't use gnome, never have, never will, but there are gnome applications that I like - gnumeric to name one, plus there are a few gnome games. So, is it my best bet to include -gnome as a keyword in my make.conf USE statement and the add it in the package.use file for those applications that need it? I'm using gnome here as an example, but if my understanding is correct, I assume this would apply to anything. And yes, I know that you can declare temporary use flags when compiling a package. My understanding is slightly different. 1) If you don't want Gnome, then never emerge gnome. 2) If a specific program has required gnome dependencies, and if you want that program on your machine, then emerge package will build the required gnome dependencies. No way around that. 3) If the program has *optional* gnome features, and if there is a flag in the ebuild to not use those optional gnome features then -gnome tells the system to leave the gnome stuff out. Hope this helps. cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
