Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Dale wrote:
>> Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> If there were some kind of trade-off I'd see the argument, but the
>>> worst case here is just that they may or may not need it. For
>>> something with some benefit and almost no
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Dale wrote:
> Rich Freeman wrote:
>>
>> If there were some kind of trade-off I'd see the argument, but the
>> worst case here is just that they may or may not need it. For
>> something with some benefit and almost no drawback that seems like
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Dale wrote:
>> The problem is, if the hard drives fills up, most won't know that they
>> can use LVM to expand it by adding a new drive. Since they don't know
>> what LVM is, they don't know about the option they have
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Dale wrote:
>
> The problem is, if the hard drives fills up, most won't know that they
> can use LVM to expand it by adding a new drive. Since they don't know
> what LVM is, they don't know about the option they have and won't use it
>
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Alan McKinnon
> wrote:
>> But I'm not talking about it for users like you and I.
>> I've said over and over in this thread about regular users and you seem
>> to be missing that part; it's the entirety of everything
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:14:54AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote
> On 30/08/2017 13:25, Walter Dnes wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 09:49:58AM -0700, Rich Freeman wrote
> >> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Another example is LVM.
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon
> wrote:
>> Another example is LVM. You or I might really need it (debatable now we
>> have ZFS) but the average user has no concept of what it might be, or
>> care. So why do Ubuntu installers shove it
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> But I'm not talking about it for users like you and I.
> I've said over and over in this thread about regular users and you seem
> to be missing that part; it's the entirety of everything I'm saying
> here. I
On 30/08/2017 13:25, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 09:49:58AM -0700, Rich Freeman wrote
>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Another example is LVM. You or I might really need it (debatable now we
>>> have ZFS) but the
On 29/08/2017 18:49, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon
> wrote:
>>
>> Another example is LVM. You or I might really need it (debatable now we
>> have ZFS) but the average user has no concept of what it might be, or
>> care. So why do
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 09:49:58AM -0700, Rich Freeman wrote
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon
> wrote:
> >
> > Another example is LVM. You or I might really need it (debatable now we
> > have ZFS) but the average user has no concept of what it might be,
Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday, 29 August 2017 14:56:34 BST J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> On 29 August 2017 14:52:45 GMT+02:00, Stroller
> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Any recommendations for a simple NTP client?
>>>
>>> I was surprised to find the clock wrong when I
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> Another example is LVM. You or I might really need it (debatable now we
> have ZFS) but the average user has no concept of what it might be, or
> care. So why do Ubuntu installers shove it in your face as something
On 29/08/2017 15:57, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Alan McKinnon
> wrote:
>>
>> ntp is designed for timeservers that by design do not make the clock
>> jump around. Every second on the wall clock actually happens, none are
>> missing. To do that,
On Tuesday, 29 August 2017 14:56:34 BST J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On 29 August 2017 14:52:45 GMT+02:00, Stroller
wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >Any recommendations for a simple NTP client?
> >
> >I was surprised to find the clock wrong when I logged into one of my
> >systems
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Stroller
wrote:
>
>> On 29 Aug 2017, at 14:19, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Stroller
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Any recommendations for a simple NTP client?
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> ntp is designed for timeservers that by design do not make the clock
> jump around. Every second on the wall clock actually happens, none are
> missing. To do that, ntp adjusts the length of a second till the
>
On 29 August 2017 14:52:45 GMT+02:00, Stroller
wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Any recommendations for a simple NTP client?
>
>I was surprised to find the clock wrong when I logged into one of my
>systems today.
>
>On another system I have net-misc/ntp installed. On it I have:
> On 29 Aug 2017, at 14:19, Rich Freeman wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Stroller
> wrote:
>>
>> Any recommendations for a simple NTP client?
>>
>
> systemd-timedated?
>
> /me ducks...
Sounds good, actually.
Will try to
On 29/08/2017 14:52, Stroller wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Any recommendations for a simple NTP client?
you asking for the simplest?
ntpdate in a cron
ntpdate in anacron (for latops and machines that are frequently off)
ntp is designed for timeservers that by design do not make the clock
jump around.
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Stroller
wrote:
>
> Any recommendations for a simple NTP client?
>
systemd-timedated?
/me ducks...
--
Rich
On 29.08.2017 14:52, Stroller wrote:
> Any recommendations for a simple NTP client?
Anything you dislike about net-misc/ntp, which you apparently use on
that other system of yours? It comes with both ntpd and ntp-client,
and the performance impact is minimal.
> I *think* this is because
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