Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-08-17 Thread thegeezer
On 29/07/14 18:04, behrouz khosravi wrote: Hello everyone. I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing gentoo! So far so good! Before installing on my laptop and desktop, I am trying on virtual box and the system is running Fluxbox very good.(default profile) Now I am thinking about

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-08-17 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:51 AM, thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote: late to the conversation but no one else has mentioned, ... Sounds neat, Thanks for the advise.

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-08-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 04:39:45 +0100, Stroller wrote: I have to confess, I don't follow desktop development to know myself what Phonon means. The page linked to in the package description for media-libs/phonon is, unsurprisingly, uninformative:

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-08-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 08:26:59 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: I have to confess, I don't follow desktop development to know myself what Phonon means. The page linked to in the package description for media-libs/phonon is, unsurprisingly, uninformative:

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-08-03 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Saturday 02 August 2014 16:13:19 Stroller wrote: On Sat, 2 August 2014, at 2:35 pm, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: ... Do you still have the bug numbers for this? I have a few machines without any sound support. If I can remove the entire sound system from it, it would save

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-08-03 Thread Philip Webb
140803 Joost Roeleveld wrote: In the settings for KMail, I had the tick-boxes mentioning HTML off already. Took me till this morning to notice that in the edit-window, Rich Text was selected. (It acts like a button that is pushed in) If anyone can tell me how to configure that to *always*

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-08-03 Thread Stroller
On Sun, 3 August 2014, at 7:49 am, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: ... Actually, I wasn't ignoring you. It just took some time to find the actual cause. My apologies, Joost. It was driving me crazy. Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-08-03 Thread wraeth
On Sun, 2014-08-03 at 08:49 +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: If anyone can tell me how to configure that to *always* default to *off*, instead of remembering the last setting, that would help. It's been a while since I used kmail (i always had issues and ended up reverting to thunderbird) but i'm

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-08-03 Thread Stroller
On Sun, 3 August 2014, at 9:17 am, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: … KDE actually specifies how to build without any multimedia (audio and video) support: https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/CMake#Command_Line_Variables cmake command line variable:

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-08-03 Thread Dale
wraeth wrote: On Sun, 2014-08-03 at 08:49 +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: If anyone can tell me how to configure that to *always* default to *off*, instead of remembering the last setting, that would help. It's been a while since I used kmail (i always had issues and ended up reverting to

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-08-02 Thread Stroller
On Sat, 2 August 2014, at 2:35 pm, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: ... Do you still have the bug numbers for this? I have a few machines without any sound support. If I can remove the entire sound system from it, it would save time during the updates. Please, Joost, I beg you, stop

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 09:34:04PM +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote: Hello everyone. […] Now I am thinking about managing USE flags. […] I am not trying to have severe control, I just want to expand my knowledge! thanks. In such cases I tend to suggest installing ufed. 'tis a UI for setting

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: In such cases I tend to suggest installing ufed... Seems really handy. Thanks.

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-31 Thread the
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 In such cases I tend to suggest installing ufed. equery from gentoolkit works for me -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-30 Thread Dale
Philip Webb wrote: 140730 behrouz khosravi wrote: Now it is obvious English is not my mother tongue! I suspect that may be true of a majority of Gentooers : we're all used to interpreting others' words trying to be careful to be clear when we do know English well. English is the only

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 30 July 2014 05:37:08 Dale wrote: English is the only language I know and even I mess it up at times. Yes, but then you are American ;) -- Regards Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-30 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 30 July 2014 05:37:08 Dale wrote: English is the only language I know and even I mess it up at times. Yes, but then you are American ;) True but sometimes, I suck at it. For the record, I am bad to leave the word not or n't out. Talk about a monumental

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 29.07.2014 19:04, schrieb behrouz khosravi: Hello everyone. I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing gentoo! So far so good! Before installing on my laptop and desktop, I am trying on virtual box and the system is running Fluxbox very good.(default profile) Now I am thinking

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-30 Thread the
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/29/14 21:04, behrouz khosravi wrote: | Hello everyone. I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing | gentoo! So far so good! Before installing on my laptop and | desktop, I am trying on virtual box and the system is running | Fluxbox

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/07/2014 19:57, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 29.07.2014 19:04, schrieb behrouz khosravi: Hello everyone. I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing gentoo! So far so good! Before installing on my laptop and desktop, I am trying on virtual box and the system is running Fluxbox

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread Philip Webb
140729 behrouz khosravi wrote: I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing gentoo! ^ 'conquered' (smile) : 'concur' = 'agree'. So far so good! Yes, it's not difficult, but it's a sort of initiation test. Before installing on my laptop and desktop, I am trying on virtual box

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:34:04 +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote: Now I am thinking about managing USE flags. What if I disable everything in the make.conf ( I mean USE=-* ) and gradually add the needed flags to package.use? You may well break your system, but you get to keep the pieces as a

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
Also, when setting up a new system, make USE flag changes gradually. Unless you are sure of what you are doing, only change a few at a time. Haha, just got frustrated with how much junk is on my machine and globally disabled perl, python, ruby, and a bunch of other stuff. Bad times ensued ;).

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: 140729 behrouz khosravi wrote: ^ 'conquered' (smile) : 'concur' = 'agree'. Sorry. Now it is obvious English is not my mother tongue! regards.

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 09:34:04PM +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote Hello everyone. I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing gentoo! So far so good! Before installing on my laptop and desktop, I am trying on virtual box and the system is running Fluxbox very good.(default profile) Now

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
Portage profiles set some default USE flags, then some ebuilds also set defaults. Using USE=-* disables all of these. You can see the defaults I have noticed that some packages have flags that I have not set, but I though that they were the default flags for that package. You mean those flags

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag, 29. Juli 2014, 19:04:04 schrieb behrouz khosravi: Now I am thinking about managing USE flags. What if I disable everything in the make.conf ( I mean USE=-* ) and gradually add the needed flags to package.use? The default profile is what you need. Please don't do USE=-*. It

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2014 22:16, Walter Dnes wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 09:34:04PM +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote Hello everyone. I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing gentoo! So far so good! Before installing on my laptop and desktop, I am trying on virtual box and the system is running

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread Philip Webb
140730 behrouz khosravi wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: 140729 behrouz khosravi wrote: ^ 'conquered' (smile) : 'concur' = 'agree'. Sorry. No need at all ! -- You said you wanted to learn (at the end) ! Now it is obvious English is not

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: In my make.conf I have... USE_BASE=-* a52 aac bzip2 cxx fortran ncurses netifrc nptl nptlonly nsplugin offensive openssl posix readline ssl threads vim-syntax zlib USE_CPU=mmx mmxext sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 USE_VIDEO=X

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: I suspect that may be true of a majority of Gentooers : we're all used to interpreting others' words trying to be careful to be clear when we do know English well. I will be very happy to be a part of this great

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
Thank you all. I have concluded that I should stay with the base profile. Although I need a desktop, but this decision will be closest to what I want in a harmless way! (at least less harm!) Then I will add CPU specific and very frequent flags to make.conf and gradually extend the package.use