Re: [gentoo-user] mail to this list from home fails, but from home relayed through ISP works

2006-05-09 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 09 May 2006 15:40, glen martin wrote:
 This isn't the case of subscribing through work and sending from home or
 whatever. In both cases I sent from home, indeed from the same account
 in the same mail client. Only the path the message took to
 list.gentoo.org changed.

 I hadn't posted to this for quite a while until recently. When I did so
 again a few days ago, the message hung up in my outgoing queue and I got
 this message in the log:

 May  7 16:09:56 texada postfix/smtp[23864]: 7D46150B55:
 to=gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org,
 relay=lists.gentoo.org[140.105.134.102], delay=15242, status=deferred
 (host lists.gentoo.org[140.105.134.102] said: 421 4.4.1 collect: read
 timeout on connection from m198-163.dsl.rawbw.com,
 from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in reply to end of DATA command))

Many MTAs refuse to relay messages from dial-up or DSL connections - and 
rightly so. Just use your ISP's SMTP server as a smarthost.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] mail to this list from home fails, but from home relayed through ISP works

2006-05-09 Thread glen martin
Uwe Thiem wrote:
 On 09 May 2006 15:40, glen martin wrote:
   
 This isn't the case of subscribing through work and sending from home or
 whatever. In both cases I sent from home, indeed from the same account
 in the same mail client. Only the path the message took to
 list.gentoo.org changed.

 I hadn't posted to this for quite a while until recently. When I did so
 again a few days ago, the message hung up in my outgoing queue and I got
 this message in the log:

 May  7 16:09:56 texada postfix/smtp[23864]: 7D46150B55:
 to=gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org,
 relay=lists.gentoo.org[140.105.134.102], delay=15242, status=deferred
 (host lists.gentoo.org[140.105.134.102] said: 421 4.4.1 collect: read
 timeout on connection from m198-163.dsl.rawbw.com,
 from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in reply to end of DATA command))
 
 Many MTAs refuse to relay messages from dial-up or DSL connections - and 
 rightly so. Just use your ISP's SMTP server as a smarthost.
   
I should certainly expect that for a relay, in which I address a message
to a name not only the MX, but does a mailing list count as a relay?
Certainly this is the only mailing list I've encountered to-date with
such a restriction, and I participate in several. And while I totally
get this for dial-up, my DSL has a static IP - I've had this number
longer than many companies in this post-dot-bomb world.

Indeed I can use my ISP as a smarthost, and in fact am currently doing
so out of necessity. It just bothers me. Privacy is not enhanced by
having my mail sitting on servers neither I nor the recipient control,
and while I don't want any particular privacy for messages to this list,
sending all my mail through the smarthost seems wrong.

Per-destination smarthost? Blech. :)

I apologise if I sound grumpy about this issue, and do thank you for the
response.

glen


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