Re: [geo] Haida readying for second round of iron dumping in ocean - News - Times Colonist

2013-04-28 Thread Josh Horton
One of the more interesting aspects of all this is the spectacle of the ETC Group, a self-described defender of indigenous rights, accusing a First Nations company of trying to get away with something, to borrow Jim Thomas' words. The typical response to this observation is that the Haida

RE: [geo] Haida readying for second round of iron dumping in ocean - News - Times Colonist

2013-04-28 Thread Robert H. Socolow
Is there any way for this group to back up and deal with the George experiment, setting aside for a day or so all visceral feelings about ETC? Does the George experiment produce its own visceral feelings in any of you? It does in me. Geoengineering has no future if it is not embedded in

RE: [geo] Haida readying for second round of iron dumping in ocean - News - Times Colonist

2013-04-28 Thread Andrew Lockley
Sorry to split hairs, but science often isn't about well designed experiments. It's often about taking messy, real world data and trying to tease it into meaningful cohorts. If the George experiment teaches us anything about the scientific investigation of geoengineering , it should be teaching

Re: [geo] Haida readying for second round of iron dumping in ocean - News - Times Colonist

2013-04-28 Thread jim thomas
Josh, as you well know this was not carried out by 'the Haida' and folks should be as careful ascribing this to 'the Haida' as ascribing the action of any small american town council to 'the americans' . Last years ocean fertilization was carried out by a vancouver-based company calling

Re: [geo] Haida readying for second round of iron dumping in ocean - News - Times Colonist

2013-04-28 Thread David Lewis
Canada's public broadcaster, the CBC, produced an episode of their Fifth Estate TV show, on Russ George entitled Ironman, which aired in Canada March 29. If you live in Canada, the show can be streamed from their website,* here http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2012-2013/2013/03/ironman.html*. The

Re: [geo] Re: The inevitability of geoengineering « The Cost of Energy

2013-04-28 Thread Michael Fleming
Isn't geo-engineering illegal? http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19660-what-the-un-ban-on-geoengineering-really-means.html Maybe I should start a forum about how crack-cocaine is great for your health and see how many people believe it. Same situation here. Just sayin'. On Mon, Apr 22, 2013

Re: [geo] Haida readying for second round of iron dumping in ocean - News - Times Colonist

2013-04-28 Thread Gregory Benford
Certainly the George experiment should be judged as an experiment, which means disclosure. Seems doubtful that it's illegal. And violence against it must be condemned. Gregory Benford On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:13 AM, David Lewis jrandomwin...@gmail.comwrote: Canada's public broadcaster, the

[geo] Warming-induced increase in aerosol number concentration likely to moderate climate change : Nature Geoscience : Nature Publishing Group

2013-04-28 Thread Andrew Lockley
http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/ngeo1800.html Atmospheric aerosol particles influence the climate system directly by scattering and absorbing solar radiation, and indirectly by acting as cloud condensation nuclei. Apart from black carbon aerosol, aerosols cause a negative

[geo] Needed: Research Guidelines for Solar Radiation Management - Morgan, Issues in Sci Tech

2013-04-28 Thread Andrew Lockley
http://www.irgc.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/SRM-piece-in-Issues.pdf M. GRANGER MORGAN ROBERT R. NORDHAUS PAUL GOTTLIEB Needed: Research Guidelines for Solar Radiation Management As this approach to geoengineering gains attention, a coordinated plan for research will make it possible to

Re: [geo] RE: Biochar: Downstream effects

2013-04-28 Thread Andrew Lockley
Does it make the oceans darker? A On 21 April 2013 01:39, rongretlar...@comcast.net wrote: Greg and list: I have tried to figure out whether this paper by Jaffe et al is apt to harm or help the introduction of biochar. My perception is that Jaffe and co-authors see a fairly strong