Re: [geo] Gardiner, Why Geoengineering is Not a Global Public Good

2013-05-14 Thread Andrew Lockley
Universal benefit may not be a valid test. Street lighting is a public good, but displeases astronomers. A On May 14, 2013 3:47 AM, Steve Gardiner stephengardin...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pleased to see my paper being discussed on the list. Still, the discussion so far does not reflect the

[geo] Grist magazine on geoengineering

2013-05-14 Thread Fred Zimmerman
From scott Rosenberg, who moderated last week's Caldeira/Hamilton event: http://grist.org/climate-energy/geoengineering-research-never-or-now/ Hamilton’s *Earthmasters* book quotes Lawrence Livermore Labs scientist Lowell Wood: “We’ve engineered every other environment we live in — why not the

Re: [geo] Grist magazine on geoengineering

2013-05-14 Thread Ken Caldeira
The context of course is that we are already interfering in Earth's climate system in a major way ... we are already throwing sand in the gears. Model results indicate that throwing some oil on the gears will help make the clock run smoothly, despite not knowing how all the gears really fit

Re: [geo] Grist magazine on geoengineering

2013-05-14 Thread Jim Fleming
Prinn's quote is via Oliver Morton. See Fleming, Fixing the Sky p. 225 *How can you engineer a system whose behavior you don’t understand?* —Ron Prinn, quoted in Morton, “Climate Change” Of course, this begs the question of someday gaining better understanding. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:45

Re: [geo] Grist magazine on geoengineering

2013-05-14 Thread RAU greg
Just to follow up, we may not entirely understand the system but we know that elevated air CO2 (sand) is not good for it. Job 1 is then to stop air CO2 from increasing. Given that we have thus far failed to do this, what are the ethics of actively discouraging research on any CO2 management

[geo] Solar radiation management: An evolving climate policy option - Energy and the Environment - AEI (Event, video)

2013-05-14 Thread Andrew Lockley
http://aei.org/events/2013/05/29/solar-radiation-management-an-evolving-climate-policy-option/ Solar radiation management: An evolving climate policy option Wednesday, May 29, 2013 | 4:30 p.m. – 6:00 p.m. AEI, Twelfth Floor 1150 Seventeenth Street, NW Washington, DC 20036 As hopes for curbing