Re: [geo] Visiting lecturer discusses moral quandaries in geoengineering | The Lawrentian

2014-02-22 Thread Mike MacCracken
And apparently no mention at all of the adverse impacts that SRM would offset‹offsets so serious that there is global agreement (if not yet sufficient action) that the world must totally give up fossil fuels to avoid, that are viewed as potentially having nonlinearities and irreversibilities such

Re: [geo] Visiting lecturer discusses moral quandaries in geoengineering | The Lawrentian

2014-02-22 Thread Bjørnar Egede-Nissen
Well, the brief description in the Lawrentian leaves out much. I certainly mentioned the adverse impacts SRM is proposed to counteract. I spent 15 minutes in the beginning discussing the nightmare rationale for SRM and I played the newly released IASS video (http://youtu.be/3GKjl7afwaY) to

[geo] Re: Rocks to Rockets, Simple Stuff.

2014-02-22 Thread Keith Henson
Cost context from private email (Olaf OK'ed posting) On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:53 AM, Schuiling, R.D. (Olaf) r.d.schuil...@uu.nl wrote: Well, these data are easy As the weathering reaction is Mg2SiO4 + 4 CO2 + 4 H2O -- 2 Mg2+ + 4 HCO3-+ H4SiO4. It means that 140 gram of olivine neutralize

Re: [geo] Visiting lecturer discusses moral quandaries in geoengineering | The Lawrentian

2014-02-22 Thread Ronal W. Larson
Bjornar etal 1. I also enjoyed the short IASS video. However, I was surprised that there was no mention there or at their web site of biochar. Any explanation for this omission? 2. Your talk had geoengineering in the title, but it seemed to be only on SRM. Will your

[geo] Re: Rocks to Rockets, Simple Stuff.

2014-02-22 Thread Ronal W. Larson
Keith and ccs: Yesterday, you wrote: PS. Biochar is a good idea in any case. It would be even better if the heat to make it came from a cheap renewable source and the off gas collected to make transport fuel. Both of your hopes are already standard (indeed mandatory if you

[geo] Re: Rocks to Rockets, Simple Stuff.

2014-02-22 Thread Keith Henson
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Ronal W. Larson rongretlar...@comcast.net wrote: Keith and ccs: Yesterday, you wrote: PS. Biochar is a good idea in any case. It would be even better if the heat to make it came from a cheap renewable source and the off gas collected to make transport

Re: [geo] Visiting lecturer discusses moral quandaries in geoengineering | The Lawrentian

2014-02-22 Thread Tom Wigley
Interestingly, one could equally well replace SRM with mitigation in the paragraph below starting The main ethical Tom. ++ On 2/22/2014 10:57 AM, Bjørnar Egede-Nissen wrote: Well, the brief description in the Lawrentian leaves out much. I certainly mentioned the

Re: [geo] Visiting lecturer discusses moral quandaries in geoengineering | The Lawrentian

2014-02-22 Thread Ronal W. Larson
Dr. Wigley, cc list: I am afraid I don't see the parallel you see between SRM and mitigation. I see and read about quite small opposition to most mitigation schemes (solar wind, energy efficiency). Yes from some on aesthetic grounds, Yes from some objecting to higher costs. Yes

[geo] Re: Rocks to Rockets, Simple Stuff.

2014-02-22 Thread Ronal W. Larson
Keith etal I respond below in bold, with [RWL: On Feb 22, 2014, at 7:23 PM, Keith Henson hkeithhen...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Ronal W. Larson rongretlar...@comcast.net wrote: Keith and ccs: Yesterday, you wrote: PS. Biochar is a good idea in any case. It