Re: [geo] EGU GE post mortem

2014-05-23 Thread John Nissen
Hi Ken and Greg, Reflecting on your point, Greg, it is extraordinary the widespread antagonism to geoengineering, when it is so obviously needed to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere and to prevent Arctic meltdown. We all ought to be campaigning for a grasping of the nettle of reality. We cannot rely

[geo] Re: Nature's OIF

2014-05-23 Thread M V Bhaskar
Natural Diatom biomass production is estimated at 23 Billion tons of Carbon per year. If C : Fe ratio is 106 : 0.001 then the total natural Iron consumption by Diatoms alone is about 1 million tons. So if the Iron availability off Greenland alone is upto 2.5 million tons, it means that most

RE: [geo] Re: Sea Ice

2014-05-23 Thread Peter Flynn
Re: [geo] Re: Sea Ice Stephen is right on three counts: water flows a great distance before freezing even at very cold ambient temperatures, northerners have long experience of both keeping water flowing and dealing with frozen pipes, and frozen pipes are readily thawed in the presence of

Re: [geo] Re: Nature's OIF

2014-05-23 Thread Andrew Lockley
Only the southern ocean is iron limited, so any feedback effects would only be manifested there. The albedo and carbon effects are on entirely different timescales. Albedo lasts weeks, carbon lasts millenia. The sign of the albedo effect is in most cases likely opposite to that of the carbon

Re: [geo] EGU GE post mortem

2014-05-23 Thread Greg Rau
Thanks John. I share your sense of urgency. Given what is clearly at stake, it is amazing that we are forced to have discussions like this, in the absence of any effective global call to arms. It doesn't help that there isn't clarity in the science community on the seriousness of the problem

Re: [geo] EGU GE post mortem

2014-05-23 Thread Michael Hayes
In the article Ken attached, the text offers the view on CDR (which included BECCS) that None of these currently can be deployed quickly on a large scale.. Funding is the only limiting factor for many of the CDR methods. And, this view of CDR being a non-starter on the scale side of the