RE: [prag] Re: [geo] Are 1.5 c or 2.0 c thresholds economically realistic in a voluntary NDC regime?

2023-04-09 Thread robert
Robert Chris and other readers, On neoliberalism, its homo economicus assumptions can only work effectively under well designed state regulation to deliver rule of law. It is possible to change the law to incentivise action on planetary cooling and other public goods. My view is that an in

Re: [prag] Re: [geo] Are 1.5 c or 2.0 c thresholds economically realistic in a voluntary NDC regime?

2023-04-09 Thread 'Robert Chris'
Hi RobertT, 'It may be possible'. I wonder.  Neoliberalism extols the primacy of markets in the allocation of resources. Neoclassical economics is mostly about the behaviour of Homo economicus, and idealised human who always acts rationally to optimise his/her wealth.  Steve Keen has pretty con

Re: [prag] [geo] Are 1.5 c or 2.0 c thresholds economically realistic in a voluntary NDC regime?

2023-04-09 Thread Ron Baiman
Thank you Herbert. As a heterodox economist I generally agree with you with regard to the standard Neoclassical economics school of thought. But by “economically” in this case I was referring to the realism of thinking that near-term human civilization will collectively be able to cut and dra

RE: [prag] Re: [geo] Are 1.5 c or 2.0 c thresholds economically realistic in a voluntary NDC regime?

2023-04-09 Thread robert
It may be possible for the current Western neoliberal neoclassical worldview to adapt to the need for climate stability. From: planetary-restorat...@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Robert Chris Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2023 12:13 AM To: H simmens ; da...@desjardins.org Cc: rpbai...@gmail.com; ge

[geo] RE: [HCA-list] Re: [prag] Are 1.5 c or 2.0 c thresholds economically realistic in a voluntary NDC regime?

2023-04-09 Thread robert
Hi Doug Your quantification of the removal of two ExxonMobils per year required to achieve IPCC goals reveals the wishful thinking in climate policy. People need hope, and when they cannot find hope in fact they create fantasy. “Nearly halving emissions by 2030”, the IPCC goal, is a fa

Re: Fwd: [prag] Re: [geo] Are 1.5 c or 2.0 c thresholds economically realistic in a voluntary NDC regime?

2023-04-09 Thread Robert Chris
Mike, you point to a key distinction that I had perhaps ignored. The dynamics of setting goals are not the same as those of realising them. Economics may have been a major factor in setting the Paris targets but they are not an enabler of their realisation.  If the political will was there amo

[geo] Preliminary results from global modelling of Cirrus Cloud Thinning in the Geoengineering Model Intercomparison Project

2023-04-09 Thread Geoengineering News
https://meetingorganizer.copernicus.org/EGU23/EGU23-7402.html *Authors* *William Smith1*, Daniele Visioni 2, and Hugh Hunt1 *How to cite:* Smith, W., Visioni, D., and Hunt, H.: Preliminary results from global modelling of Cirrus C

[geo] A passenger aircraft that flies around the world at Mach 9? Sure, why not

2023-04-09 Thread Andrew Lockley
https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/04/a-passenger-aircraft-that-flies-around-the-world-at-mach-9-sure-why-not/ [image: Ars Technica]