To: mmacc...@comcast.net
Cc: dsw_s ; Geoengineering
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 4:04 PM
Subject: [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
You are right, of course, Mike!
Cheers, John.
Quoting Mike MacCracken mmacc...@comcast.net:
Hi John—I certainly agree with you
Schnare [mailto:dwschn...@gmail.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 11 juin 2009 13:09
À : Bonnelle Denis
Cc : ds...@yahoo.com; geoengineering; lmich...@vortexengine.ca
Objet : Re: [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
For those of us who have been on a ship, on the ocean and near a hurricane,
much less
to, it
would be a good thing.
Best,
Denis.
De : David Schnare [mailto:dwschn...@gmail.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 11 juin 2009 13:09
À : Bonnelle Denis
Cc : ds...@yahoo.com; geoengineering; lmich...@vortexengine.ca
Objet : Re: [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
For those of us who have been
: mercredi 10 juin 2009 10:55
À : geoengineering
Objet : [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
To have harmful wind speeds, a hurricane needs to have lots of
angular
momentum. If some of the angular momentum could be dispersed to
farther from the center of the storm, wind speeds
juin 2009 13:09
À : Bonnelle Denis
Cc : ds...@yahoo.com; geoengineering; lmich...@vortexengine.ca
Objet : Re: [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
For those of us who have been on a ship, on the ocean and near a
hurricane,
much less under it, the idea of having any ship, much
, but if anyone was willing to, it
would be a good thing.
Best,
Denis.
De : David Schnare [mailto:dwschn...@gmail.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 11 juin 2009 13:09
À : Bonnelle Denis
Cc : ds...@yahoo.com; geoengineering; lmich...@vortexengine.ca
Objet : Re: [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
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Envoyé : mercredi 10 juin 2009 10:55
À : geoengineering
Objet : [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
To have harmful wind speeds, a hurricane needs to have lots of angular
momentum. If some of the angular momentum could be dispersed to
farther from
Bonnelle
denis.bonne...@normalesup.org
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Envoyé : mercredi 10 juin 2009 10:55
À : geoengineering
Objet : [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
To have harmful
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Envoyé : mercredi 10 juin 2009 10:55
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Objet : [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
To have harmful wind speeds, a hurricane needs to have lots of angular
momentum
To have harmful wind speeds, a hurricane needs to have lots of angular
momentum. If some of the angular momentum could be dispersed to
farther from the center of the storm, wind speeds would be lower. If
I understand it right, a hurricane has air coming in from the
periphery at low altitude,
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[mailto:geoengineer...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alvia Gaskill
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:38 PM
To: mmacc...@comcast.net; dsw_s; Geoengineering
Subject: [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
Some more info about the effect of hurricanes or more generally
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[mailto:geoengineer...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alvia Gaskill
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:38 PM
To: mmacc...@comcast.net; dsw_s; Geoengineering
Subject: [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
Some more info about the effect of hurricanes or more generally, tropical
it makes landfall?
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[mailto:geoengineer...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alvia Gaskill
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 8:38 PM
To: mmacc...@comcast.net; dsw_s; Geoengineering
Subject: [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
MMC:
Air goes up at moist adiabatic rate, but has to be forced down at the
dry adiabatic rate
Of course. Thanks.
Does it follow that although the net effect of moist convection is to
transport heat upward, the actual circulation of air transports heat
downward whenever air is being forced to
A few random thoughts on this very long thread.
1) Steering
Could you steer a hurricane by cooling one side and heating another - kinda
like how a tank steers by slowing down one track. Done early enough, even a
small change in angle would adjust the landfall by miles.
2) Suppression
The idea of
While it is quite probable that hurricanes result in radiation escaping to
space more easily, the short term local effect, I believe, is to suppress
outgoing longwave radiation (OLR):
Positive values of OLR are indicative of suppressed convection, while
negative values suggest enhanced convective
, June 06, 2009 8:38 PM
To: mmacc...@comcast.net; dsw_s; Geoengineering
Subject: [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
Some more info about the effect of hurricanes or more generally, tropical
cyclones on SST (sea surface temperature) from NOAA and the Wikipedia. Most
of the temperature
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Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 7:21 AM
Subject: [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
Oliver and all,
Again, this is NOT my area of expertise, but I am aware of a little work
Wingenter oliver.wingen...@gmail.com; Geoengineering
Geoengineering@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
A couple of notes:
1. Most of the energy to carry the air up is used to push air elsewhere
back
down
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Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 7:21 AM
Subject: [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
Oliver and all,
Again, this is NOT my area of expertise, but I am aware of a little work
that has been done based on hurricane measurements combined with modeling.
Unfortunately, I
cyclones do something profound.
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From: f.m.maugis
To: agask...@nc.rr.com ; geoengineering@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:30 AM
Subject: RE: [geo] Just in Time for Hurricane Season
Why killing hurricanes, as far as they cool naturally
Leinen mlei...@climateresponsefund.org
To: oliver.wingen...@gmail.com; geoengineering
geoengineering@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 7:21 AM
Subject: [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
Oliver and all,
Again, this is NOT my area of expertise, but I am aware of a little
: [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
Oliver and all,
Again, this is NOT my area of expertise, but I am aware of a little work
that has been done based on hurricane measurements combined with modeling.
Unfortunately, I haven't found anything that gives flux numbers, but the
NOAA
, 2009 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [geo] Re: Just in Time for Hurricane Season
A couple of notes:
1. Most of the energy to carry the air up is used to push air elsewhere back
down--as air comes down elsewhere, it is compressed and this takes
energy--adiabatic heating. This heat wars the air and can
ones do
something profound."
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Sent:
Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:30 AM
Subject:
RE: [geo] Just in Time for Hurricane Seas
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Hi Ken,
Your paper implies that hurricanes can contribute to polar amplification,
hence providing positive feedback to global warming (and hence more extreme
hurricanes, etc.). Quoting from your paper:
These results support
Why killing hurricanes, as far as they cool naturally our climate ?
François MAUGIS
http://assee.free.fr
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[mailto:geoengineer...@googlegroups.com] De la part de Alvia Gaskill
Envoyé : mardi 2 juin 2009
To: agask...@nc.rr.com ; geoengineering@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:30 AM
Subject: RE: [geo] Just in Time for Hurricane Season
Why killing hurricanes, as far as they cool naturally our climate ?
François MAUGIS
http://assee.free.fr
, Vecchi
said. This is all hinting that tropical cyclones do something profound.
- Original Message -
From: f.m.maugis
To: agask...@nc.rr.com ; geoengineering@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:30 AM
Subject: RE: [geo] Just in Time for Hurricane Season
Why
11:30 AM
Subject: RE: [geo] Just in Time for Hurricane Season
Why killing hurricanes, as far as they cool naturally our climate ?
François MAUGIS
http://assee.free.fr
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