Re: [geo] Re: Rejected - a simple argument for SRM geoengineering

2009-11-16 Thread Mike MacCracken
Agreed, one has to consider a time period, so assume one takes a day that when injected there is no decay over this period‹so it might as well be a second of time one takes‹so virtually instantaneous. And I¹ll assume linearity on methane absorption and logarithmic for CO2. So, for methane, humans

RE: [geo] Re: Rejected - a simple argument for SRM geoengineering

2009-11-16 Thread Eugene I. Gordon
The last line is the key and perfectly true. At last an honest broker. plausible. We are not dealing with solid science but rather with hypothesis and plausibility. Plausibility is not a lesser form of exactness. They are not related concepts. Nothing better than plausibility is available. So

Re: [geo] Re: Rejected - a simple argument for SRM geoengineering

2009-11-16 Thread Greg Rau
In light of recent modeling results on the lifetime of CO2 in the atmosphere, I am concerned that the current time-integrated (not instantaneous) GWP estimate for CO2 has been underestimated and hence GWP's of other gases (esp short-lived gases) relative to CO2 have been overestimated. E.g.,

Re: [geo] Re: Rejected - a simple argument for SRM geoengineering

2009-11-16 Thread Mike MacCracken
First, I should have noted that the recent Shindell et al paper makes clear that methane has roles in addition to its own GH effect, so my estimate does not include that. On the CO2 question, GWP is over a time period. Indeed, as the time is stretched out, the GWPs for other species drop because

Re: [geo] Re: Rejected - a simple argument for SRM geoengineering

2009-11-16 Thread Greg Rau
Thanks, Mike. My comments below. - Greg First, I should have noted that the recent Shindell et al paper makes clear that methane has roles in addition to its own GH effect, so my estimate does not include that. On the CO2 question, GWP is over a time period. Indeed, as the time is