[geo] The Reality Behind the Chevy Volt's 230 MPG

2009-08-14 Thread Veli Albert Kallio
There are some bacground information on the impact of decline of fossil fuels to fuel economies in transport powered by electricity. EC view is global oil production goes into terminal decline within the next two years, from geoengineering point of view these background considerations may be

[geo] Ecologists weigh in

2009-08-14 Thread Greg Rau
Apologies if this has already been discussed, but thought some quotes in here were pretty precious. Article written in a curious mixture of tenses. Anyone go to this? The bigger the scale of the approach, the riskier it is for the environment, [=small scale solutions to a big scale problem

[geo] Re: Home experiment

2009-08-14 Thread Andrew Lockley
After a couple of days all the Special K sank. I think this is rather neat. It gives you a couple of days to whiten and insulate the ocean - just long enough to mess up a hurricane. Then it can either end up as food for bottom-feeders or it will sequester the carbon. I think it could be worth a

[geo] Re: Home experiment

2009-08-14 Thread Mike MacCracken
Remember, that crashing waves might well be an important factor to consider in lifetime of the floating material. The approach has to limit evaporation, not so much heat transfer, and it is a bit hard to see how one would cover the waves in any sort of continuous way without a much larger amount

[geo] whatever you think of orbiting solar...

2009-08-14 Thread Andrew Revkin
does anyone out there see heat harvesting from parking lots as transformational? http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/14/energy-frontiers-space-solar-hot-lots/ weigh in... -- Andrew C. Revkin The New York Times / Environment 620 Eighth Ave., NY, NY 10018 Tel: 212-556-7326 Mob:

[geo] Re: Home experiment

2009-08-14 Thread Alvia Gaskill
I guess this makes you a cereal killer. Cereal is also relatively expensive. Starch based packing peanuts would be whiter and also biodegradable, but the scale and other issues previously discussed in my opinion make this an infeasible pre-emptive measure. You may have seen on the weather

[geo] Re: Home experiment

2009-08-14 Thread Andrew Lockley
There are a variety of artificial materials that could be used, such as corn starch plastic strips, etc. as well as packing peanuts. There are lots of agricultural wastes that would be worth a go. Wheat straw, peanut shells, apple cores, potato peelings, etc. The logic for this approach is just

[geo] Re: whatever you think of orbiting solar...

2009-08-14 Thread Alvia Gaskill
I don't as it would have very limited applicability if any at all. Plus, if the surfaces are eventually whitened as is the goal of the LBNL initiative, that would reduce the effectiveness of such systems. I also doubt that sufficient energy can be captured to make it worthwhile, although the

[geo] Re: Home experiment

2009-08-14 Thread Stuart Strand
Perhaps you should estimate the cost first. How much straw per ha do you need to insulate enough to get 50% reduction in heat flux? Or to cover, to make it simpler. The sea area to be covered would be something on the order of the area of a hurricane. Purchase and shipping costs for the