Re: [geo] Re: Tropospheric Injection of Diatoms

2011-06-26 Thread John Nissen
Dear Michael and Bhaskar, Thanks for these thoughts - they could become the basis of something useful in the Arctic to suppress methane: 5. *Will this method address tundra methane release?* Not completely, however this method could seed even the smallest body of standing water within a tundra

Re: [geo] Re: Tropospheric Injection of Diatoms

2011-06-26 Thread Andrew Lockley
It is not a safe assumption that anoxia in the water column is a factor in most methane emissions from water bodies. With fossil methane release, oxygenation is unlikely to be of much assistance. Only where methane is produced in the water column in anoxic or hypoxic conditions would this method

Re: [geo] Re: Tropospheric Injection of Diatoms

2011-06-26 Thread BHASKAR M V
Andrew In practical terms, hypoxia is best addressed indirectly, e.g. by controlling fertilizer runoff This is as practical as reducing CO2 emissions. Methanogenesis usually occurs below the photic zone and mixed layer - and mixing of co2 could also be a limiting factor. Therefore biological

Re: [geo] Re: Tropospheric Injection of Diatoms

2011-06-26 Thread BHASKAR M V
John It would be simple to experiment on ponds which are producing methane, and see if a spray of diatoms, with or without nutrients, could have a significant effect. BTW, I would expect that such an experiment has been done already - does anybody know? I have been trying for past few years to

Re: [geo] Re: Tropospheric Injection of Diatoms

2011-06-26 Thread Andrew Lockley
I'm not against biological methods, you just can't easily use them for oxygenation - as nature is pretty good this way anyhow. There are many practical ways to reduce fertilizer use. Stopping perverse farming subsidies is one, taxing fertilizer use is another. Reducing nox from fertilizer may

Re: [geo] Re: Tropospheric Injection of Diatoms

2011-06-26 Thread John Nissen
I'm looking for things (anything!) that will work in the Arctic. John --- On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Andrew Lockley andrew.lock...@gmail.comwrote: I'm not against biological methods, you just can't easily use them for oxygenation - as nature is pretty good this way anyhow. There are

[geo] Sea Level

2011-06-26 Thread Rau, Greg
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110620161215.htm Researchers Link Fastest Sea-Level Rise in Two Millennia to Increasing Temperatures ScienceDaily (June 20, 2011) — An international research team including University of Pennsylvania scientists has shown that the rate of sea-level

Re: [geo] Sea Level

2011-06-26 Thread Michael Hayes
Here is another ocean related media story on new migration through NW Passage http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2015429051_apeuclimateoceans.html?syndication=rss http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2015429051_apeuclimateoceans.html?syndication=rss Reid

Re: Re: [geo] Re: Tropospheric Injection of Diatoms

2011-06-26 Thread voglerlake
Andrew, First, the conceptual sketch I proposed in this thread has turned into a bucket of worms and I need to admit failure. Bhaskar may be able to further carry the ball with his knowledge on the use of diatom nutritional enhancement, however I can not give any further support to the

[geo] Re: Tropospheric Injection of Diatoms

2011-06-26 Thread Nathan Currier
John, Andrew - P.S. Any brainstorming ideas like this for the methane-busting workshop, London 3-4 September, are most welcome. Try to get Euan Nisbet, who lives there in London and deals with methane emissions, to take part. But if you specifically want to try to exploit methanotrophy, as in

Re: Re: [geo] Re: Tropospheric Injection of Diatoms

2011-06-26 Thread voglerlake
Bhaskar, You state reasonable points. However, there may be a need for multiple approaches which use multiple means. Tundra based pools/lakes would have no practical use for mechanical mixing, where as, open ocean areas with strong currents would possible better benefit from a focused

Re: Re: [geo] Re: Tropospheric Injection of Diatoms

2011-06-26 Thread BHASKAR M V
Michael Harvesting methane would be very useful. Installing any hardware in lakes and oceans would interfere with the water ecology and what would you do with these after the life ends in say 50 years. After all global warming started since 50 or 100 years ago no one thought of what would be