Re: [geo] Geoengineering and Non-Ideal Theory

2016-03-02 Thread Jonathan Marshall
This seems pretty clear to me. Why should dangerous geoengineering projects with almost certain large scale unintended consequences be researched simply because they are possible in fantasy? In many cases, the logistics seem close to absurd, and simply deflect money from more useful and

Re: [geo] Geoengineering and Non-Ideal Theory

2016-03-02 Thread David Morrow
The point, obviously, was not to "equate" SRM or CDR with any of those things, but to show by uncontroversial examples that your claim (i.e., that we "must carefully evaluate all alternative options") couldn't be taken literally. And if it can't be taken literally, then stipulating that any

Re: [geo] Announcing a new Academic Working Group on International Governance of Solar Climate Engineering

2016-03-02 Thread Andrew Lockley
It's just info@ On 2 Mar 2016 17:06, "Stephen Salter" wrote: > Hi All > > The toi...@ceassessment.org gets bounced. > > Stephen > > > Emeritus Professor of Engineering Design. School of Engineering, > University of Edinburgh, Mayfield Road, Edinburgh EH9 3DW, Scotland >

Re: [geo] Geoengineering and Non-Ideal Theory

2016-03-02 Thread Greg Rau
Very sorry.  I had no idea that geoengineering is now equated with "large-scale nuclear war; turning off all fossil-fueled power plants, vehicles, factories, etc., draining all the rice paddies, slaughtering all the cattle, etc. tomorrow—literally tomorrow, with all the attendant catastrophic

Re: [geo] Simulated long-term climate response to idealized solar geoengineering - Cao - 2016 - GRL - Wiley

2016-03-02 Thread Ken Caldeira
This paper came about as a consequence of helping to write the recent NRC report on Climate Intervention: Reflecting Sunlight to Cool the Earth. There was a question regarding whether Earth's climate would continue to drift as ocean circulation responded to solar geoengineering. We found that,

Re: [geo] Announcing a new Academic Working Group on International Governance of Solar Climate Engineering

2016-03-02 Thread Stephen Salter
Hi All The toi...@ceassessment.org gets bounced. Stephen Emeritus Professor of Engineering Design. School of Engineering, University of Edinburgh, Mayfield Road, Edinburgh EH9 3DW, Scotland s.sal...@ed.ac.uk, Tel +44 (0)131 650 5704, Cell 07795 203 195, WWW.homepages.ed.ac.uk/shs,

Re[2]: [geo] carbon sequestration by oysters

2016-03-02 Thread Oeste
Completion of the argument from Oliver Tickell against oyster farming in the ocean or shelf might induce the opposite result: Oysters are filter feeders within the food chain. They remove all kind of suspended matter from the water column inklusive phytoplankton, phytoplankton detritus, clay

[geo] Simulated long-term climate response to idealized solar geoengineering - Cao - 2016 - GRL - Wiley

2016-03-02 Thread Andrew Lockley
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2016GL068079/abstract Simulated long-term climate response to idealized solar geoengineering Authors Long Cao, Lei Duan, Govindasamy Bala, Ken Caldeira 02 March 2016 doi: 10.1002/2016GL068079 Abstract Solar geoengineering has been proposed as a

Re: [geo] carbon sequestration by oysters

2016-03-02 Thread Oliver Tickell
There seems to be a fundamental error in this analysis. Far from sequestering CO2, this process emits CO2 to the atmosphere according to the reaction: Ca++ + 2HCO3- => CaCO3 + CO2 In the process depleting ocean alkalinity. Oliver. On 01/03/2016 22:27, Andrew Lockley wrote:

[geo] Announcing a new Academic Working Group on International Governance of Solar Climate Engineering

2016-03-02 Thread Andrew Lockley
http://dcgeoconsortium.org/2016/03/01/announcing-a-new-academic-working-group-on-international-governance-of-solar-climate-engineering/ Announcing a new Academic Working Group on International Governance of Solar Climate Engineering The Forum for Climate Engineering Assessment (FCEA) at American