[geo] Re: New SRM risk/cost analysis

2011-04-25 Thread Nathan Currier
I agree with Ken’s comments to the authors, but wonder whether this concentration on geoengineering’s ‘termination problem’ couldn’t be used to rethink possible limits on large-scale aerosol SRM to make it more palatable and acceptable? Someone once posted, either in a ‘moral hazard’ thread or

Re: [geo] Re: New SRM risk/cost analysis

2011-04-25 Thread Ken Caldeira
The termination problem that poses the biggest threat is the termination problem related to fossil-fuel CO2 emissions. Were we to terminate such emissions today suddenly, there would global economic havoc (threatening the food supply of billions of people). Not only that, but the climate effects

Re: [geo] Re: New SRM risk/cost analysis

2011-04-25 Thread nathan currier
Hi, Ken - Of course you're right, but cessation of the industrial activity itself is certainly not what I meant by the termination problem of co-emitted aerosols with CO2. I meant the loss of the aerosol loading we are now facing from replacing coal, in particular, with new greener energy over

[geo] Re: New SRM risk/cost analysis

2011-04-19 Thread Dan Whaley
Seems to rehash so many of the canards, and to recommit so many of the obvious fallacies sigh... are we condemned to a perpetual groundhog day where even the Joe Romm's out there never pick up on the main points? 0. We've got 700ppm baked in right now. So, mitigate, mitigate, mitigate

Re: [geo] Re: New SRM risk/cost analysis

2011-04-19 Thread Ken Caldeira
About a year and a half ago, I sent the authors of the paper under discussion the following comments: *fromKen Caldeira kcalde...@carnegie.stanford.edu* *tomg...@geosc.psu.edu* *ccklaus keller kkel...@geosc.psu.edu,* * Nancy Tuana

Re: [geo] Re: New SRM risk/cost analysis

2011-04-19 Thread Michael Hayes
I was typing my response to the offered paper when Dr. Caldeira's post came through. Exactly! And politely put! Even a layperson, such as myself, can see this paper as disturbingly myopic with a profound lack of common sense. If a study incorporates a key phase such as our analysis considers only