Re: [Geoserver-devel] GeoServer releases: no more OSX installers?

2018-02-22 Thread Andrea Aime 
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Jody Garnett 
wrote:

> The GeoServer project does have some budget. We could also put in a
> request to SAC to host a Mac mini for us and provide Jenkins '/ shell
> access.
>

A OSGeo hosted mac holding the (preciou!) OSGeo certificate would seem
like a good match indeed :-)

Cheers
Andrea

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GeoServer releases: no more OSX installers?

2018-02-22 Thread Jody Garnett 
The GeoServer project does have some budget. We could also put in a request
to SAC to host a Mac mini for us and provide Jenkins '/ shell access.

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On 22 February 2018 at 11:08, Torben Barsballe 
wrote:

> So, this topic has come up before, when the OS X build server was still
> usable but to be deprecated in "the near future". We didn't have too much
> luck on executing on a good solution then.
>
> My thoughts:
>
>- Dropping the installer would not be the end of the world, but should
>still be a last resort. The system independent binary runs fine on OS X
>(and Java is generally installed by default). If we go this route, we need
>to be sure to update the install instructions
>.
>- If we can get some OSGeo funding for a mac build server that
>definitely seems like the best option.
>- Someone manually building the installers seems like a good way to
>get a mac installer only on some releases and not on others (due to
>availability or lack thereof), which almost seems worse from a user
>perspective then not building the installer at all. I feel like we would
>want at least two volunteers if we were to seriously consider this option.
>
> I also have a suggestion for a fourth option:
>
>- If we are okay with an unsigned installer, I have heard there is a
>way of spinning up a OS X build box on demand via Travis CI; this might be
>a easy way of generating the OS X artifacts. I don't know much more about
>this, but this looks like it could be another option.
>
>
> Torben
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:08 AM, Andrea Aime  > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> after a chat on gitter yesterday it seems clear 2.11.5 and 2.13-beta will
>> not have a OSX installer.
>>
>> The OSX build server that was used to build the installers is gone, and
>> in order to build a signed
>> installer one needs to get a hold of OSGeo certificate, which requires
>> some procedure and control
>> to be given out.
>>
>> So, options coming to mind:
>>
>>- We simply drop the installer?
>>- Can we use OSGeo funding to get a build server going again? Looks
>>like the are some "reasonably" priced options here:
>>https://portal.macincloud.com/select/#/plans
>>
>>- Can we get a volunteer that will build the installer manually every
>>month? Can we go with an unsigned installer, or will we find someone 
>> that's
>>willing and trusted enough to get a hold of the OSGeo certificate?
>>
>> Ideas? Anyone interested in volunteering?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
>>
>> ==
>> GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit
>> http://goo.gl/it488V for more information.
>> ==
>>
>> Ing. Andrea Aime
>> @geowolf
>> Technical Lead
>>
>> GeoSolutions S.A.S.
>> Via di Montramito 3/A
>> 55054  Massarosa (LU)
>> phone: +39 0584 962313 <+39%200584%20962313>
>> fax: +39 0584 1660272 <+39%200584%20166%200272>
>> mob: +39  339 8844549 <+39%20339%20884%204549>
>>
>> http://www.geo-solutions.it
>> http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it
>>
>> AVVERTENZE AI SENSI DEL D.Lgs. 196/2003
>>
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GeoServer releases: no more OSX installers?

2018-02-22 Thread Torben Barsballe 
So, this topic has come up before, when the OS X build server was still
usable but to be deprecated in "the near future". We didn't have too much
luck on executing on a good solution then.

My thoughts:

   - Dropping the installer would not be the end of the world, but should
   still be a last resort. The system independent binary runs fine on OS X
   (and Java is generally installed by default). If we go this route, we need
   to be sure to update the install instructions
   .
   - If we can get some OSGeo funding for a mac build server that
   definitely seems like the best option.
   - Someone manually building the installers seems like a good way to get
   a mac installer only on some releases and not on others (due to
   availability or lack thereof), which almost seems worse from a user
   perspective then not building the installer at all. I feel like we would
   want at least two volunteers if we were to seriously consider this option.

I also have a suggestion for a fourth option:

   - If we are okay with an unsigned installer, I have heard there is a way
   of spinning up a OS X build box on demand via Travis CI; this might be a
   easy way of generating the OS X artifacts. I don't know much more about
   this, but this looks like it could be another option.


Torben


On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:08 AM, Andrea Aime 
wrote:

> Hi,
> after a chat on gitter yesterday it seems clear 2.11.5 and 2.13-beta will
> not have a OSX installer.
>
> The OSX build server that was used to build the installers is gone, and in
> order to build a signed
> installer one needs to get a hold of OSGeo certificate, which requires
> some procedure and control
> to be given out.
>
> So, options coming to mind:
>
>- We simply drop the installer?
>- Can we use OSGeo funding to get a build server going again? Looks
>like the are some "reasonably" priced options here: https://portal.
>macincloud.com/select/#/plans
>- Can we get a volunteer that will build the installer manually every
>month? Can we go with an unsigned installer, or will we find someone that's
>willing and trusted enough to get a hold of the OSGeo certificate?
>
> Ideas? Anyone interested in volunteering?
>
> Cheers
> Andrea
>
> ==
> GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit
> http://goo.gl/it488V for more information.
> ==
>
> Ing. Andrea Aime
> @geowolf
> Technical Lead
>
> GeoSolutions S.A.S.
> Via di Montramito 3/A
> 55054  Massarosa (LU)
> phone: +39 0584 962313 <+39%200584%20962313>
> fax: +39 0584 1660272 <+39%200584%20166%200272>
> mob: +39  339 8844549 <+39%20339%20884%204549>
>
> http://www.geo-solutions.it
> http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it
>
> AVVERTENZE AI SENSI DEL D.Lgs. 196/2003
>
> Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio di posta elettronica e/o
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> strictly forbidden except previous formal approval of the named
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> made after they were sent or for other risks which arise as a result of
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>
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