Me too!

2014-11-04 Thread Steve
Thanks DP! where would we be without you! What happens when Nitro kicks in then? another re-write of Get_Iplayer? Steve ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer

Re: Me too!

2014-11-04 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 08:00:25AM +, Steve wrote: What happens when Nitro kicks in then? another re-write of Get_Iplayer? Well, get_iplayer as it stands probably stops working. Whether it's going to be possible to replace it, we don't know until someone outside the BBC can actually try the

Re: Thank You

2014-11-04 Thread Jonathan H
On 4 November 2014 01:51, Peter S Kirk peter.k...@isauk.biz wrote: Email a complaint to the Ministry of Fun aka Incredibly ill-though out idea. regarding: 1. The double speak in: ...designed to clamp down on clients such as XBMC or get_iplayer, which allow programmes to be watched or

Re: Thank You

2014-11-04 Thread wacla...@btconnect.com
On 04/11/14 01:51, Peter S Kirk wrote: After all, GiP is no different from the old method of recording TV to VCR or Radio to cassette tape. Isn't that the point, by using GIP we are only using another type of recording device to record content from the BBC. I could buy a DigitalTV today,

Re: Thank You

2014-11-04 Thread Alan Milewczyk
I'm amazed at these discussions. The issue for the BBC is one of the protection of intellectual property. Yes, the problem has been around since recording devices became available but since the advent of digital technology it has spiralled out of all belief as a problem to the copyright

Re: Thank You

2014-11-04 Thread Tom
On 04/11/14 09:54, Alan Milewczyk wrote: I'm amazed at these discussions. The issue for the BBC is one of the protection of intellectual property. Yes, the problem has been around since recording devices became available but since the advent of digital technology it has spiralled out of all

Re: Thank You

2014-11-04 Thread Colin Law
On 4 November 2014 09:54, Alan Milewczyk a...@soulman1949.com wrote: ...The BBC is sitting on a massive treasure trove. What makes anyone think they will give this up willingly. Ignoring the technical limitations of the BBC iPlayer, the BBC lets us enjoy THEIR content for a limited period.

complaints to auntie

2014-11-04 Thread message
Readers, Please write complaints to: jon.billi...@bbc.co.uk (Head of BBC Platform API) ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer

Re: Thank You

2014-11-04 Thread Alan Milewczyk
On 04/11/2014 10:09, Tom wrote: The mistake you and they are making is that it can somehow be protected and so is worth a fortune. It cant and so it isn't. As you say they could shut down GIP today but that would not stop anything they broadcast or make available appearing on 'pirate' sites

Re: complaints to auntie

2014-11-04 Thread message
On 2014-11-04 10:50, message wrote: Readers, Please write complaints to: jon.billi...@bbc.co.uk (Head of BBC Platform API) Jon.Billings at bbc.co.uk ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org

Re: Thank You

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer
Alan Milewczyk a...@soulman1949.com wrote: Digital gives us the unprecedented ability to make a perfect copy, not a lossy copy as with tape ... But it's a perfect copy of an imperfect (compressed, loss of detail etc) source I'd think they'd be more concerned about digital tv recorders

Re: Thank You

2014-11-04 Thread Alan Milewczyk
But they will certainly disagree that their content belongs to you and that you have unfettered rights over it. That's what the LOL was for! A On 04/11/2014 11:11, Colin Law wrote: On 4 November 2014 11:01, Alan Milewczyk a...@soulman1949.com wrote: LOL, try arguing that in a court of law!

Re: Thank You

2014-11-04 Thread Colin Law
On 4 November 2014 11:18, Alan Milewczyk a...@soulman1949.com wrote: But they will certainly disagree that their content belongs to you and that you have unfettered rights over it. That's what the LOL was for! I did not say it belongs to me, I said it belongs to the British people. Also I did

No programmes are available for this pid

2014-11-04 Thread Alan Milewczyk
I'm puzzled by this message: No programmes are available for this pid with version(s): default which I get when trying to download two programmes (PIDs p0299nz3 and p0299ml1). Yet the programmes (Autumnwatch Extra) play on the BBC iPlayer site without problem. The other 6 programmes in the

Re: No programmes are available for this pid

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer
Alan Milewczyk a...@soulman1949.com wrote: I'm puzzled by this message: No programmes are available for this pid with version(s): default which I get when trying to download two programmes (PIDs p0299nz3 and p0299ml1). Usually it means they're only available in eg 'signed' form. For that you

Re: Thank You

2014-11-04 Thread Ian Stirling
On 11/04/2014 09:54 AM, Alan Milewczyk wrote: We've seen how the film studios have been clamping down on piracy. The BBC is sitting on a massive treasure trove. What makes anyone think they will give this up willingly. Ignoring the technical limitations of the BBC iPlayer, the BBC lets us

Re: Thank You

2014-11-04 Thread Alan Milewczyk
Yawn, is this the 5 minute argument or the full half hour? On 04/11/2014 11:33, Colin Law wrote: On 4 November 2014 11:18, Alan Milewczyk a...@soulman1949.com wrote: But they will certainly disagree that their content belongs to you and that you have unfettered rights over it. That's what the

Re: Thank You

2014-11-04 Thread Welshmike
On 04/11/14 12:54, Ian Stirling wrote: ... - so I typically have to try to download several times - and I can't do this with my linux PC. I was able to do this on my Ubuntu Linux system using the older get_iplayer. I was once prompted to use the --force option whan wanting to download a

Re: Thank You

2014-11-04 Thread Colin Law
On 4 November 2014 13:49, Ian Tomkinson ian.tomkin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Colin Law clan...@gmail.com wrote: I did not say it belongs to me, I said it belongs to the British people. Also I did not say we had unfettered rights, I pointed out that copyright and

ePetition Covering Public Data From The Likes Of The BBC

2014-11-04 Thread C E Macfarlane
Now available for signatories. Please sign if you are a UK resident and feel remotely able to support it: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/71556 www.macfh.co.uk/CEMH.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org

Re: ePetition Covering Public Data From The Likes Of The BBC

2014-11-04 Thread Shiner
- Original Message - From: C E Macfarlane c.e.macfarl...@macfh.co.uk To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 2:40 PM Subject: ePetition Covering Public Data From The Likes Of The BBC Now available for signatories. Please sign if you are a UK resident

Re: No programmes are available for this pid

2014-11-04 Thread Alan Milewczyk
On 04/11/2014 11:47, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: Alan Milewczyk a...@soulman1949.com wrote: I'm puzzled by this message: No programmes are available for this pid with version(s): default which I get when trying to download two programmes (PIDs p0299nz3 and p0299ml1). Usually it

RE: No programmes are available for this pid

2014-11-04 Thread Andy Wedge
Hmm this gets more and more strange. I'm trying to download the programme on a Linux laptop as RTMP seems to barf over the 4 GB limit on Windows but not on Linux. The Linux PC says it ain't there (as previously advised) but the Windows PC is downloading it normally (we've not got to the

Re: Thank You

2014-11-04 Thread Nick
On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 09:54:47 + Alan Milewczyk a...@soulman1949.com wrote: I'm amazed at these discussions. I wonder how many BBC people are actually subscribed to the list. And I'm not angling for a list admin to look, it is private. But there's gotta be some lovies watching, at least :)

Re: No programmes are available for this pid

2014-11-04 Thread Alan Milewczyk
On 04/11/2014 15:54, TQ wrote: On 04/11/2014 11:47, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: Alan Milewczyk a...@soulman1949.com wrote: I'm puzzled by this message: No programmes are available for this pid with version(s): default which I get when trying to download two programmes (PIDs p0299nz3

Re: Thank You

2014-11-04 Thread Alan Milewczyk
I don't disagree with anything you say, Nick. I'm just taking the devil's advocate position from the viewpoint of film studios, BBC etc etc, i.e. the media producers. But yes, we currently have an untenable King Canute situation - the waves of technology have been destroying previous

Re: Thank You

2014-11-04 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer
Nick get_ipla...@i.lucanops.net wrote: Which is the irony of the enforcement of OTT IP. The restrictions won't ever truly work - even with some closed network, server and client system the end-user could still video the screen. And how much is a phone these days that can video something? :)

Re: get_iplayer repair update #1

2014-11-04 Thread Alan Foster
Thank you for your hard work on get_iplayer. Alan. On 1 November 2014 00:45, dinkypumpkin dinkypump...@gmail.com wrote: get_iplayer has been more or less repaired, but there are still some wounds. I'm going to release what I have on Sunday. I'm on the road next week, so I've run out of time

RE: ePetition Covering Public Data From The Likes Of The BBC

2014-11-04 Thread C E Macfarlane
Needless to say, I disagree. Cynicism is a very easy option, as it totally absolves the cynic from any sort of public spirited exertion, far less from making any sort of stand, and some sort of stand is usually necessary to make any gains in this life. I see absolutely no need to keep a low

Re: ePetition Covering Public Data From The Likes Of The BBC

2014-11-04 Thread Robert Snelling
I have just signed it and I would urge all on this mailing list to do so too. On 04/11/14 14:40, C E Macfarlane wrote: Now available for signatories. Please sign if you are a UK resident and feel remotely able to support it: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/71556

PVR unwanted features

2014-11-04 Thread Don Grunbaum
Repeating my thanks to DP et al for their very swift resolution to the bombshell that hit last week, I have found a couple of unwanted features with the PVR. First, DP's fix for the past weekend's two Formula 1 programmes doesn't seem to have worked for me (Windows XP and 7). The Radio 5

Re: PVR unwanted features

2014-11-04 Thread artisticforge .
Hello; this has to be unique to you. I have around 300 searches in PVR and they are all working as normal. I do find the below in tv.cache .get_iplayer/tv.cache:3799|tv|Sounds of the 70s 2|b01kcq0k|2014-11-09T20:30:00Z|New Wave - Hit Me Wit there are also entries in the radio.cache. But type

Re: PVR unwanted features

2014-11-04 Thread Don Grunbaum
- Original Message - From: artisticforge . artisticfo...@gmail.com To: get_iplayer get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:16 PM Subject: Re: PVR unwanted features Hello; this has to be unique to you. I have around 300 searches in PVR and they are all

Re: PVR unwanted features

2014-11-04 Thread dinkypumpkin
On 04/11/2014 21:01, Don Grunbaum wrote: Repeating my thanks to DP et al for their very swift resolution to the First, DP's fix for the past weekend's two Formula 1 programmes doesn't seem to have worked for me (Windows XP and 7). The Radio 5 live programmes show in the cache, but not the TV.

RE: ePetition Covering Public Data From The Likes Of The BBC

2014-11-04 Thread C E Macfarlane
-Original Message- From: Shiner [mailto:dodgy-cu...@ntlworld.com] Sent: 04 November 2014 21:11 To: c.e.macfarl...@macfh.co.uk Subject: Re: ePetition Covering Public Data From The Likes Of The BBC Top posting corrected... Why am I somehow not surprised to