Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-27 Thread RS
On 27/07/2019 01:58, Owen Smith wrote: ITV1 HD on Freeview has never broadcast in anything other than 2.0 audio. Their stated reason is it being too difficult to switch modes between content in 5.1 and adverts in 2.0. This is clearly rubbish since C4 HD does it with no problems. But given the

Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-27 Thread Jim web
In brief because this is OT: Yes. However the snag I discovered is that 'rules' here is a plural. i.e. there is more than one 'standard' (sic) mixdown set of ratios. The problem then is to ensure the *chosen* standard for given material is communicated and used for a mixdown. Otherwise the

Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-27 Thread James Scholes
For years now, possibly since the advent of the DVB-T system, broadcasters have sent the audio description track for visually impaired viewers completely separate from the program audio. It's then mixed in by the receiver, at least on Freeview. The aim of this, frankly convoluted, system was

Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-26 Thread Owen Smith
ITV1 HD on Freeview has never broadcast in anything other than 2.0 audio. Their stated reason is it being too difficult to switch modes between content in 5.1 and adverts in 2.0. This is clearly rubbish since C4 HD does it with no problems. But given the stated reason was audio for adverts, I

Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-26 Thread Jim web
Yes, understood about the DVB-T2. I tend to get the stream with a USB 'dongle' RX then play with VLC, and one of the things I wonder about is how it is mixing down to stereo.[1] I recall some years ago some Proms where the mode transmitted kept changing during the concert and hopped about between

Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-26 Thread RS
On 25/07/2019 11:13, Jim web wrote: Which then leads to the conundrum that iPlayer TV becomes the poor relation when it comes to music broadcasts like Proms. A mere 128k aac compared with the 320k aac of R3 and the 5.1. surround of HDTV DVB-T2, etc! I doubt bandwidth is the issue because

Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-25 Thread Jim web
In article <57d50a493f...@audiomisc.co.uk>, Jim web > Can't pin the date down exactly, but around the start of July the rate > dropped from 320 to 128. I'll try asking, but any reply depends on a > 'pass the parcel' at the BBC, so no idea when I'll get a response or how > helpful it may be! I've

Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-18 Thread Jim web
In article <8840651f-35f4-eb50-baf1-c8deab5f9...@jls-radio.com>, James Scholes wrote: > On 17/07/2019 at 6:11 pm, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > > checking back I find that everything I've downloaded in almost-HD > > since 1/1/2019 is at 128kbps audio or less > Which is exactly what I was

Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread James Scholes
On 17/07/2019 at 6:11 pm, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: checking back I find that everything I've downloaded in almost-HD since 1/1/2019 is at 128kbps audio or less Which is exactly what I was working from. The program I spotted with 320K audio was from Sunday the 14th of July, and I made an

Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane
Please see below ... On 17/07/2019 16:26, James Scholes wrote: Scratch what I said previously, the format of the URLs has changed and the 320K streams are still available.  Just posted the info here: https://forums.squarepenguin.co.uk/thread-2062.html And dinky had replied:  "That is not a

Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread James Scholes
Scratch what I said previously, the format of the URLs has changed and the 320K streams are still available. Just posted the info here: https://forums.squarepenguin.co.uk/thread-2062.html Regards, James Scholes On 17/07/2019 at 4:11 pm, James Scholes wrote: On 17/07/2019 at 3:18 pm, MacFH

Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread James Scholes
On 17/07/2019 at 3:18 pm, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: Unless anyone has anything more definite, such as a statement from the BBC, that suggests to me "cock-up" rather than "change of policy". Not necessarily. If anything, I think the availability of 320K TV streams in the first place was

Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread Jim web
On 17 Jul, w...@audiomisc.co.uk wrote: > I hadn't noticed a change as none of it recently has been music, but I > will now also check what I've been fetching recently. Can't pin the date down exactly, but around the start of July the rate dropped from 320 to 128. I'll try asking, but any reply

Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread Jim web
In article , MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > Unless anyone has anything more definite, such as a statement from the > BBC, that suggests to me "cock-up" rather than "change of policy". > Perhaps someone in a position to do so so may care to contact the BBC to > enquire/complain. An obvious

Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane
Please see below ... On 17/07/2019 10:28, RS wrote: This forum post may be of interest to some here. errfmt: I've noticed that the 320kbps audio streams that used to be default for hvfhd/hvfsd/hvfxsd TV seem to have disappeared and have been replaced with 128kbps streams. Looking at my

Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread Owen Smith
Usual reduction in audio quality since the BBC believes everyone uses earbuds anyway for iPlayer. Meanwhile I want stuff broadcast in 5.1 audio (on HD channels) to have 5.1 audio in iPlayer. Fat chance now. -- Owen Smith Cambridge, UK > On 17 Jul 2019, at 10:28, RS wrote: > > This forum