Re: RE: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread tellyaddict
I don't think it's speed that's the issue. You can try downloading the failed segments in a browser and they fail because they are just not on the server. Working segments (eg. the one before the failure) will download fine. __ > Having a thought about this, when you stream something

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread David Cantrell
On 2016-08-15, 18:08, John Bingham wrote: On 15/08/16 17:42, David Cantrell wrote: I think that's unlikely. That said, if someone were to add rate-limiting options to get_iplayer I'd be very happy. Fairly easy to slow down everything on a Linux interface. If anyone has the time/inclination,

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread RS
From: George Eycott Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 15:52 Having a thought about this, when you stream something through IPlayer or on a device of any sort to watch as it streams, it pulls data at a far lower rate than when we try and download the whole programme in one hit. I wonder whether it

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread Alan Milewczyk
On 15/08/16 22:07, RS wrote: S I think what has caused confusion is that the transition from v2.94 to v2.95 made several changes at the same time. Agreed HLS and HVF support were added. HLS was already available in v2.94, I've been using it for ages, ever since I found that I could

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread RS
Sorry I sent this to the wrong address. From: Jim web Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 17:59 This morning I used the 'best' option, but it now occurs to me: Does that no longer use the 'flash' mode? I just tried a couple of fetches explicitly specifying 'flash' and they fetched OK, as I was

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread RS
From: Jim web Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 17:59 This morning I used the 'best' option, but it now occurs to me: Does that no longer use the 'flash' mode? I just tried a couple of fetches explicitly specifying 'flash' and they fetched OK, as I was getting until the last few days. I think

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread tellyaddict
The sync problems are caused by converting a programme with missing segments after download. --raw files have no sync issues even if there are segments missing. > > I'm still using V2.94 and no sync problems. > > > > Is the audio out by a constant time (eg 0.3 secs) in a programme? > > > > I

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread Peter S Kirk
On 15 Aug 2016 at 18:35, tellyaddict tellyaddict wrote: > > OK, I think this thread has now ran it's course. Enough of the > > speculation and OT chatter. > > I have to disagree. > > I don't think this is OT. This is a current problem with the current version > of

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread batguano999
> > I think so far we have worked out quite a lot about the problems ... > > Hi Those hls streams give problems with "some" radio shows too... = = Flash

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread tellyaddict
> Not much point in going much further on that point. But over the years I > have learned that speculations about the cause or reason for something are > often helpful in being able to get something sorted out. So I don't agree > with you. We''ll have to differ in our views on this. I think so

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread Alan Milewczyk
On 15/08/16 17:59, Jim web wrote: Until a few days ago I was using 'best' and I think this was giving me the 'RTMPDump'. *However* a few days ago I changed from using a 'development' version of 2.95 to the 2.95 released a while ago. At that point, and until today, I've been focussed on trying

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread John Bingham
Fairly easy to slow down everything on a Linux interface. If anyone has the time/inclination, maybe worth investigating the tc command. On 15/08/16 17:42, David Cantrell wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 03:52:52PM +0100, George Eycott wrote: Having a thought about this, when you stream

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread Jim web
In article , S Carr wrote: > On 15 August 2016 at 16:33, Jim web wrote: > > If your 'Flash' method differs from mine, please specify the details > > and I'll try it. But at present I am

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread Jim web
In article

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 03:52:52PM +0100, George Eycott wrote: > Having a thought about this, when you stream something through IPlayer or on > a device of any sort to watch as it streams, it pulls data at a far lower > rate than when we try and download the whole programme in one hit. I wonder >

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread S Carr
On 15 August 2016 at 17:35, tellyaddict wrote: > We have been told for a long time that the Flash streams will disappear. Not > sure this is really the answer. Being told one thing and it actually happening are not the same. When they disappear then I'll worry about it.

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread tellyaddict
> But they want people to shift away from using Akamai, so may not be > concerned. I don't use the standard BBC webpage interfaces, etc, these days > so have no idea if current browsers or BBC apps are being affected by this. > If they are, I'd have expected an outcry by now as this has been

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread tellyaddict
> OK, I think this thread has now ran it's course. Enough of the > speculation and OT chatter. I have to disagree. I don't think this is OT. This is a current problem with the current version of GiP that we are trying to work out. > The workaround for most users is to use the old flash streams

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread S Carr
On 15 August 2016 at 16:33, Jim web wrote: > If your 'Flash' method differs from mine, please specify the details and > I'll try it. But at present I am spending over an hour per morning fetching > files I then mostly get problems with. From what others have written I >

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread Jim web
In article , S Carr wrote: > OK, I think this thread has now ran it's course. Enough of the > speculation and OT chatter. Most of this seems very on topic for this list to me. cf below in case you have missed

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread S Carr
OK, I think this thread has now ran it's course. Enough of the speculation and OT chatter. The workaround for most users is to use the old flash streams --modes=flash ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread Jim web
In article , tellyaddict wrote: > > I can only speculate here, but: It might be the case that some of > > Akamai's non-BBC 'clients' are wanting the changes for some reasons of > > their

Re: RE: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread tellyaddict
> I can only speculate here, but: It might be the case that some of Akamai's > non-BBC 'clients' are wanting the changes for some reasons of their own. Why would anyone ask for broken streams though? > Or they stem from an arrangement the BBC aren't party to. They might be > dealing with it in

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread Jim web
In article <01d1f6e4$f74537a0$e5cfa6e0$@macfh.co.uk>, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > > > > It may only be depreciated as far as the BBC is concerned. Although the > BBC > > is now moving towards packaging its own content, Akamai's other > > clients might continue

RE: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane
Please see below ... > -Original Message- > From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On > Behalf Of tellyaddict > Sent: 14 August 2016 14:44 > To: get_iplayer > Subject: Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync > > It may only be depreciated as far as the BBC is concerned.

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread Jim web
In article <6688868477144804BAF7EFA66BCD19BD@RJCDESK>, RS wrote: > >From: Jim web Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 16:48 > >However the 'American in Paris' snippet file I fetched gives no sound > >at all from VLC! The video looks fine, but its a silent film! 8-) > An American

Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

2016-08-15 Thread tellyaddict
The HVF streams are still HLS. The HLS streams that are being classed as legacy though sadly are the 25fps equivalents. __ > It says,"A key to making this work was a switch to chunked HTTP video > formats. We already use these for our live streams and with this change all > new