Re: [Ghm-discuss] My idea for GHM 2017

2016-09-23 Thread John Darrington 
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 08:59:12AM +, ng0 wrote:
 
 Is there a country/region already for the next meeting so I could help
 locate/gather potential venues and hostels and similar places?

I think there has been an implicit assumption that it'll be Western Europe 
"somewhere".   However I personally would be open to other suggestions too.

J'

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Re: [Ghm-discuss] My idea for GHM 2017

2016-09-23 Thread ng0 
Hi,

John Darrington  writes:

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> For various reasons I never made it to GHM this year, but I hear that it was
> a very successful event.Here is my suggestion for 2107:
>
> In Europe there are various "Gruppenunterkunft" hostels - places which have
> basic accommodation plus a seminar room for smallish conferences.  Why don't
> we hire such a place for the week-end?  In 2016 attendees paid EUR 50 per day
> to attend GHM.  On top of that, most would have had to pay for accommodation.
> If we get a good deal with the venue proprietor we can have people attend for
> EUR 50 per day *including* accommodation.
>
> I can see a number of other advantages to this plan too:
>
> *  With accommodation and meeting in the same place, people will not be
>at the mercy of weather and public transport, when getting to and from.
>
> *  We can have informal sessions late into the night.
>
> *  Having everyone staying together, it'll be a better social experience.
>
>
> Perhaps somebody has already started with other plans.  But  if not - then
> what do you think?
>
> J'
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I think this is a good idea. If something like this would be in place
next time, I could attend.

Is there a country/region already for the next meeting so I could help
locate/gather potential venues and hostels and similar places?
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Re: [Ghm-discuss] My idea for GHM 2017

2016-09-22 Thread Joël Krähemann 
Hi all

How many people do you expect? Here's a link to the youth-hostels
suitable for bigger events.
The debconf-15 was in Heidelberg.

http://www.jugendherberge-bw.de/de-DE/Gruppen/Tagungen-Seminare

This is a youth-hostel near my place, there are rooms for groups but
rather small I think:

http://konstanz.jugendherberge-bw.de/de-DE/Portraet

Bests,
Joël



2016-09-21 19:36 GMT+02:00 Joël Krähemann :
> Hi all
>
> I'd like to help. I live near the german border in Switzerland by
> Lake-Constance. Just tell me what to do. I don't have a car
> so I'm tied to public transportation.
>
> Bests,
> Joël
>
>
> 2016-09-21 19:13 GMT+02:00 John Darrington :
>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 05:38:44PM +0200, Darshit Shah wrote:
>>  Last I heard, we were looking into the Linux Hotel in D??sseldorf for 
>> the
>>  next GHM. But I'm not sure what happened about it.
>>
>> That was considered some years ago.  But for PR reasons we  should not hold 
>> GNU
>> events at the "Linux" hotel.
>>
>>  I completely agree that having such a deal where we can mix 
>> accommodation
>>  and conference expenses would be a great benefit for everybody. Although
>>  as Christian pointed out at one of the discussions during GHM 2016, it
>>  might make the event out of bounds for a few people.  Not everyone paid
>>  the ???50 per day but instead only paid for the cost of accommodation
>>  which can be far cheaper. It would be one item to consider.
>>
>> In previous years the FSF has made available a small fund for subsidising 
>> people
>> who would otherwise be unable to attend, and so far as I know this fund is 
>> still
>> available.  Also, I think that most people would not object to paying (say) 
>> 5EUR
>> over and above the cost of the venue in order to support such people.
>>
>>  If you do have any ideas for locations of such hostels, please do share.
>>
>> There are plenty such places advertised in the internet.  For example have a 
>> look
>> at http://gruppenunterkuenfte.de  We just have to decide on something 
>> suitable.
>>
>>
>> The biggest issue, as I see it - is finding someone willing to organise it.
>> I can help, as I did in 2014 - but others would need to do their bit too :)
>>
>> J'
>>
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Re: [Ghm-discuss] My idea for GHM 2017

2016-09-22 Thread Joël Krähemann 
Hi all

This is another near my place but it is located in Switzerland:

http://www.youthhostel.ch/de/hostels/st-gallen

View more places in Switzerland:

http://www.youthhostel.ch/de/home

Bests,
Joël


2016-09-22 22:28 GMT+02:00 Joël Krähemann :
> Hi all
>
> How many people do you expect? Here's a link to the youth-hostels
> suitable for bigger events.
> The debconf-15 was in Heidelberg.
>
> http://www.jugendherberge-bw.de/de-DE/Gruppen/Tagungen-Seminare
>
> This is a youth-hostel near my place, there are rooms for groups but
> rather small I think:
>
> http://konstanz.jugendherberge-bw.de/de-DE/Portraet
>
> Bests,
> Joël
>
>
>
> 2016-09-21 19:36 GMT+02:00 Joël Krähemann :
>> Hi all
>>
>> I'd like to help. I live near the german border in Switzerland by
>> Lake-Constance. Just tell me what to do. I don't have a car
>> so I'm tied to public transportation.
>>
>> Bests,
>> Joël
>>
>>
>> 2016-09-21 19:13 GMT+02:00 John Darrington :
>>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 05:38:44PM +0200, Darshit Shah wrote:
>>>  Last I heard, we were looking into the Linux Hotel in D??sseldorf for 
>>> the
>>>  next GHM. But I'm not sure what happened about it.
>>>
>>> That was considered some years ago.  But for PR reasons we  should not hold 
>>> GNU
>>> events at the "Linux" hotel.
>>>
>>>  I completely agree that having such a deal where we can mix 
>>> accommodation
>>>  and conference expenses would be a great benefit for everybody. 
>>> Although
>>>  as Christian pointed out at one of the discussions during GHM 2016, it
>>>  might make the event out of bounds for a few people.  Not everyone paid
>>>  the ???50 per day but instead only paid for the cost of accommodation
>>>  which can be far cheaper. It would be one item to consider.
>>>
>>> In previous years the FSF has made available a small fund for subsidising 
>>> people
>>> who would otherwise be unable to attend, and so far as I know this fund is 
>>> still
>>> available.  Also, I think that most people would not object to paying (say) 
>>> 5EUR
>>> over and above the cost of the venue in order to support such people.
>>>
>>>  If you do have any ideas for locations of such hostels, please do 
>>> share.
>>>
>>> There are plenty such places advertised in the internet.  For example have 
>>> a look
>>> at http://gruppenunterkuenfte.de  We just have to decide on something 
>>> suitable.
>>>
>>>
>>> The biggest issue, as I see it - is finding someone willing to organise it.
>>> I can help, as I did in 2014 - but others would need to do their bit too :)
>>>
>>> J'
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Ghm-discuss] My idea for GHM 2017

2016-09-21 Thread Joël Krähemann 
Hi all

I'd like to help. I live near the german border in Switzerland by
Lake-Constance. Just tell me what to do. I don't have a car
so I'm tied to public transportation.

Bests,
Joël


2016-09-21 19:13 GMT+02:00 John Darrington :
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 05:38:44PM +0200, Darshit Shah wrote:
>  Last I heard, we were looking into the Linux Hotel in D??sseldorf for the
>  next GHM. But I'm not sure what happened about it.
>
> That was considered some years ago.  But for PR reasons we  should not hold 
> GNU
> events at the "Linux" hotel.
>
>  I completely agree that having such a deal where we can mix accommodation
>  and conference expenses would be a great benefit for everybody. Although
>  as Christian pointed out at one of the discussions during GHM 2016, it
>  might make the event out of bounds for a few people.  Not everyone paid
>  the ???50 per day but instead only paid for the cost of accommodation
>  which can be far cheaper. It would be one item to consider.
>
> In previous years the FSF has made available a small fund for subsidising 
> people
> who would otherwise be unable to attend, and so far as I know this fund is 
> still
> available.  Also, I think that most people would not object to paying (say) 
> 5EUR
> over and above the cost of the venue in order to support such people.
>
>  If you do have any ideas for locations of such hostels, please do share.
>
> There are plenty such places advertised in the internet.  For example have a 
> look
> at http://gruppenunterkuenfte.de  We just have to decide on something 
> suitable.
>
>
> The biggest issue, as I see it - is finding someone willing to organise it.
> I can help, as I did in 2014 - but others would need to do their bit too :)
>
> J'
>
>
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Re: [Ghm-discuss] My idea for GHM 2017

2016-09-21 Thread John Darrington 
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 05:38:44PM +0200, Darshit Shah wrote:
 Last I heard, we were looking into the Linux Hotel in D??sseldorf for the
 next GHM. But I'm not sure what happened about it.

That was considered some years ago.  But for PR reasons we  should not hold GNU 
events at the "Linux" hotel.
 
 I completely agree that having such a deal where we can mix accommodation
 and conference expenses would be a great benefit for everybody. Although
 as Christian pointed out at one of the discussions during GHM 2016, it
 might make the event out of bounds for a few people.  Not everyone paid
 the ???50 per day but instead only paid for the cost of accommodation
 which can be far cheaper. It would be one item to consider.

In previous years the FSF has made available a small fund for subsidising people
who would otherwise be unable to attend, and so far as I know this fund is still
available.  Also, I think that most people would not object to paying (say) 5EUR
over and above the cost of the venue in order to support such people.
 
 If you do have any ideas for locations of such hostels, please do share.

There are plenty such places advertised in the internet.  For example have a 
look
at http://gruppenunterkuenfte.de  We just have to decide on something suitable.
 

The biggest issue, as I see it - is finding someone willing to organise it.
I can help, as I did in 2014 - but others would need to do their bit too :)

J'


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Re: [Ghm-discuss] My idea for GHM 2017

2016-09-21 Thread Samuel Thibault 
John Darrington, on Wed 21 Sep 2016 12:37:01 +0200, wrote:
> In Europe there are various "Gruppenunterkunft" hostels - places which have
> basic accommodation plus a seminar room for smallish conferences.  Why don't
> we hire such a place for the week-end?

Debconf tends to have this kind of arrangement, and it's indeed very
fruitful for the various reasons you have mentioned :)

Samuel