Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp plugin and gdb?

2004-07-23 Thread Manish Singh
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 06:15:03PM +1200, Joseph Heled wrote:
 
 While starting each plugin as a separate process has it's advantages, gdb 
 interaction is certainly not one of them.
 
 For example, right now I bring the plugin dialog up, then look up in the 
 process list for it, and attach it to the gdb session. Is there an easier 
 way?
 
 But the real problem is that by the time the plugin dialog is up lots of 
 interesting stuff has already happened. So, how can I debug run() itself in 
 a reasonable way?
 
 (I can think of several ugly hacks to make run() stop and wait until I 
 attach to it, but I still hope there is something I overlooked and there is 
 a simple solution for that).

Check out the developer FAQ:

http://developer.gimp.org/faq.html#id2778982

So yes, you overlooked some key things. ;)

-Yosh
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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp plugin and gdb?

2004-07-23 Thread Philip
Joseph Heled wrote:
But the real problem is that by the time the plugin dialog is up lots 
of interesting stuff has already happened. So, how can I debug run() 
itself in a reasonable way?
(I can think of several ugly hacks to make run() stop and wait until I 
attach to it, but I still hope there is something I overlooked and 
there is a simple solution for that).
Please read http://developer.gimp.org/debug-plug-ins.txt .  This file is 
also contained in the devel-docs/ directory in the source tree.

Philip
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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp plugin and gdb?

2004-07-23 Thread Joseph Heled
Exactly what I needed! Thanks a lot.
I never wondered what's in that mysterious MAIN(). Now I know at least some of 
the answer :)

-Joseph
Manish Singh wrote:
Check out the developer FAQ:
http://developer.gimp.org/faq.html#id2778982
So yes, you overlooked some key things. ;)
-Yosh

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[Gimp-developer] TWAIN plugin for Mac OS X Win32

2004-07-23 Thread Brion Vibber
I've been working on porting the formerly Win32-only TWAIN plugin to Mac 
OS X [1].

Patched version configures, builds and runs on Mac OS X 10.3; I can 
successfully scan from a CanoScan U1240U using a TWAIN SANE bridge [2], 
but it crashes when scanning with an EPSON Perfection 1250 using EPSON's 
TWAIN driver. Also 'Cancel' doesn't seem to work quite right.

To get out of #ifdef hell I isolated the platform-specific bits into 
their own file, though it's still a little scary in there. I've tried 
not to break the Win32 side, but I don't yet have a Win32 build 
environment set up to test it. The directions I found on the wiki are 
pretty daunting...

[1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147962
[2] http://www.ellert.se/twain-sane/
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[Gimp-developer] gimp-plugin-template: install

2004-07-23 Thread Joseph Heled
Can someone tell me how to configure gimp-plugin-template so that it installs 
locally(~/gimp-2.0) instead of the global /usr/local?

Thanks, Joseph
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[Gimp-developer] gimp-plugin-template: install

2004-07-23 Thread Joseph Heled
Can someone tell me how to configure gimp-plugin-template so that it installs
locally(~/gimp-2.0) instead of the global /usr/local?
Thanks, Joseph
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[Gimp-developer] plugin: can it tell when it is called to generate a thumnail?

2004-07-23 Thread Joseph Heled
The topic says it all. When the Open dialog needs to generate a preview
thumbnail, it calls the open plugin non interactively. However, if the plugin
knew that only a small thumbnail is needed, it can use in many cases the one
stored in the file. This can result in a speed up of many orders of magnitude
when raw files are the target.
-Joseph
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Re: [Gimp-developer] 16 bit Gimp?

2004-07-23 Thread Dave Neary

Hi,

Quoting Joseph Heled [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 There is actually lots of the functionality I need support (and some I need
 to
 do) in the gimp already, if only the gimp was 16 bits ready.

 So, I wonder, any estimate how far in the future it is?

Any estimate that you get will be unreliable, most likely, given the track
record of the project. That said, I'll give you one.

End of 2005. That is, 2.2.0 in September 2004, GEGL 1.0 (the minimum of
functionality the GIMP core needs to use it) sometime around February 2005
(pure guess), and then 6 months to actually use it, followed by a 3 month
pre-release cycle. That gives a release around Christmas 2005. Of wourse, this
might well be complete fiction.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-plugin-template: install

2004-07-23 Thread Markus Triska
On Friday 23 July 2004 09:04 am, Joseph Heled wrote:

 Can someone tell me how to configure gimp-plugin-template so that it
 installs locally(~/gimp-2.0) instead of the global /usr/local?

You can type

./configure --help 

for a list of parameters that influence the installation. Maybe

./configure --prefix=/home/myname/gimp_plugins/

or similar does what you need (install where you have write-access to).

Markus.
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[Gimp-developer] Good news

2004-07-23 Thread Roman Joost
One thing we decided at the GimpCon meeting was, we need more people who
proof read the manual. In that regard, I suggest we
make a little plan, when some people doing proof reading. I think it's a
bad idea to say something like: Here is the manual, please keep proof
reading, even though it will be updated constantly.

I suggest we tell the proof readers, which pages they can proof read.
Those pages shouldn't change to much in the future. This applies at
least for the toolbox if I remember correctly.

The WIKI is up and I added a new table at the bottom of our project page
to know which one proof reads which language. Please feel free to add
you there, so we know which person to contact to proof read which
written content.

Another point which we're looking forward to, is some technical help
from SuSE. Kenneth Wilmer from SuSE was present at the first GIMP
meeting.  After GUADEC, Dave and I were spaeking with Kenneth and he
forwarded us to other SuSE people.  Actually, I'm looking forward to
work with the SuSE people, which will speed up the development of the
whole manual.

Greetings,
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Re: [Gimp-developer] compose - decompose nitpicking

2004-07-23 Thread William Skaggs
Sven Neumann wrote:
 Huh? At the moment compose doesn't know anything about decompose. 
 Why shouldn't it work on layers not produced by decompose? 

Well, I'm a bit behind the times on this one.  I haven't used
compose much for the past 3-4 months, and as I recall this issue
was there then, but it doesn't seem to be there now.

The issue that *is* there now is that compose shows a bunch of
pixbuf-related libgimp-critical error messages whenever I try to
run it, but of course that's a different thing.

Best,
  -- Bill
 

 
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Re: [Gimp-developer] compose - decompose nitpicking

2004-07-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

William Skaggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The issue that *is* there now is that compose shows a bunch of
 pixbuf-related libgimp-critical error messages whenever I try to
 run it, but of course that's a different thing.

The new code in gimppixbuf.c made a wrong assumption. Good that I had
added a warning for the case that the assumption was violated. I've
fixed the problem now by adding code that handles grayscale previews.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-plugin-template: install

2004-07-23 Thread David Neary
Hi Joseph,

Joseph Heled wrote:
 Can someone tell me how to configure gimp-plugin-template so that it 
 installs locally(~/gimp-2.0) instead of the global /usr/local?

configure --prefix=~/gimp-2.0 should work. But if you would like
to install your plug-in in the GIMP user directory (in
$HOME/.gimp-2.0/plug-ins), I don't know how to do that.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-plugin-template: install

2004-07-23 Thread Joseph Heled

David Neary wrote:
Hi Joseph,
Joseph Heled wrote:
Can someone tell me how to configure gimp-plugin-template so that it 
installs locally(~/gimp-2.0) instead of the global /usr/local?

configure --prefix=~/gimp-2.0 should work. But if you would like
to install your plug-in in the GIMP user directory (in
$HOME/.gimp-2.0/plug-ins), I don't know how to do that.
which is exactly my problem. configure sets this from
GIMP_LIBDIR=`$PKG_CONFIG --variable=gimplibdir gimp-2.0`
And gives no way to override it. I think this is a configure mistake.
-Joseph
Cheers,
Dave.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] OT: noise equivalence in HSV components

2004-07-23 Thread Joseph Heled
 HSV is the wrong colorspace to use for this purpose.  The LA*B*
 colorspace was designed to do what you are trying to accomplish:
 supposedly, equal distances in LA*B* coordinate space correspond to
 equal distances in human perceptual space -- although I understand
 that there is debate about whether this is really true.
I might be wrong, but this will not solve it either. I assume the AB (color 
information) might be in the same units, but I don't think Luminosity is. (and 
I can make the argument that Hue and Saturation are in the same units as well, 
the problem being how to fit Value in)

-Joseph
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