Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu.

2004-09-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why wouldn't that be the case any longer? It would only be packaged in a separate source tree. Of course every GIMP installation would include it. How would you enfore the dependency? I don't understand how removing script-fu from the source

[Gimp-developer] on splitting things off

2004-09-08 Thread William Skaggs
Sven Neumann wrote: I am not going to allow the source tree to be clobbered with more stuff simply because we are too lazy to add some simple notes to our web-site and FTP server. In the long run we will want to split GIMP into even more packages. Dave Neary wrote: On another note, I'm not

Re: [Gimp-developer] Layers, Channels and Drawables

2004-09-08 Thread William Skaggs
Cathy Irwin writes: Can anybody point me to some documentation that explain the differences between the various drawables comprehensively? At a conceptual level, the difference is very simple: A layer is a visible part of an image. A channel is not: it is a grayscale drawable that acts to

Re: [Gimp-developer] on splitting things off

2004-09-08 Thread David Neary
Hi, William Skaggs wrote: Dave Neary wrote: Splitting stuff off feels an awful lot like putting it out to pasture. The goal of just having the core application, with no plug-ins, no image data structures, no scripts, and a minimum number of brushes, patterns and gradients doesn't seem

[Gimp-developer] split GIMP into even more packages

2004-09-08 Thread Alan Horkan
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: snip to be clobbered with more stuff simply because we are too lazy to add some simple notes to our web-site and FTP server. In the long run we will want to split GIMP into even more packages. Slimming down the core by moving things out to other

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu.

2004-09-08 Thread Alan Horkan
On another note, I'm not sure this is a desirable goal. splitting stuff off feels an awful lot like putting it out to pasture. The that does seem like a valid risk to consider goal of just having the core application, with no plug-ins, no image data structures, no scripts, and a minimum

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.2 and Script-Fu/Tiny-Fu.

2004-09-08 Thread William Skaggs
Kevin Cozens wrote: Replacing Script-Fu with Tiny-Fu could help push Tiny-Fu along a bit (ie. with translations) if it isn't fully ready yet by exposing it to more users but what is in the best interest of GIMP and its users? I'm actually quite sympathetic, but it doesn't seem to me that

Re: [Gimp-developer] on splitting things off

2004-09-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If that's the case, we're working towards needing a jhbuild or a garnome for the GIMP, which just doesn't seem right - we're a desktop application, not a suite of developer libraries and desktop applications. We have one set of developers, not

Re: [Gimp-developer] on splitting things off

2004-09-08 Thread David Neary
Hi Sven Sven Neumann wrote: I don't see what's wrong with needing a jhbuild type of script to ease compilation (not that I have ever felt the need to use jhbuild). GIMP is not a desktop application. It is (or should become if it isn't yet) an image manipulation suite. We have several sets of

Re: [Gimp-developer] on splitting things off

2004-09-08 Thread Carol Spears
hello, long ago when i had a job and a home and friends who were gimp developers i had an idea of a plug-in building environment. in the time that this environment was designed, i lost all of those things previously listed. the environment i helped to design is now being used successfully at

Re: [Gimp-developer] on splitting things off

2004-09-08 Thread Carol Spears
more, On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 06:02:16PM -0700, Carol Spears wrote: my experience with gimp is different than dave neary is talking about. he is saying that if you dont get everything at one time, you will not get it. when i first started to use gimp, it was so much fun to go online and