[Gimp-developer] improved drawing modes

2008-02-22 Thread Radoslav Schudich
the available drawing modes should have these options too
(there are plenty (21) drawing modes, but I definitly miss these:

ERASE  (to be able to erase the drawing (not just one color) with any  
drawing
NEGATIVE

-it makes the drawing/editing easier, because when you want to erase
something, you do not need to change your tool 2 eraser, but can choose to
erase the painting with the brush you currently have.

the drawing modes could have an assigned shortcut too.

I used to use Aura - professional painting/editor program, now on
www.bauhaussoftware.com which really takes the advantage of these
modes. More times I realised I do not have to change the tool used,
but just the used modes with just a keystroke.

what do U think?

ssuuddoo
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Re: [Gimp-developer] improved drawing modes

2008-02-22 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:17:26 +0100, Radoslav Schudich [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 the available drawing modes should have these options too
 (there are plenty (21) drawing modes, but I definitly miss these:
 
 ERASE  (to be able to erase the drawing (not just one color) with any  
 drawing
 NEGATIVE
 
 -it makes the drawing/editing easier, because when you want to erase
 something, you do not need to change your tool 2 eraser, but can choose to
 erase the painting with the brush you currently have.

Could you explain why it would be easier to do this with additional
drawing modes instead of using the existing shortcuts to switch to the
eraser and then switch back to your previous drawing tool?

If you use the existing shortcuts for the tools or if you define new
ones, then you only need to press the key for the eraser, erase what
you want, and then press the key for the other paint tool to continue
drawing.  You can do that without having to move the mouse to the tool
options and change the paint mode, which is more cumbersome in my
opinion.

Also, for those who use a drawing tablet, it is much easier to switch
tools than to play with drawing modes.

-Raphaël
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Re: [Gimp-developer] improved drawing modes

2008-02-22 Thread Radoslav Schudich
Hi, I know, it sounds like a waste, but trust me, it isnt. I firstly didnt  
even
know what are those drawing modes for, but soon it fastened my work.
I suppose they should have a shortcut key too.

For example: You draw or edit an image with a simple brush, when you want  
to
erase some stuff, you switch to the eraser, but this one has different  
brush size,
shape, opacity than the first tool. Using different modes like erase and  
plenty more
are efficent. (I admit, some of them I never used - solarise, and other  
modes,
I do not use to use).

Maybe I am explaining it wrong, but You can try it for your own.

The program I used to work with is named TV Paint Animation,
for someone it can be an unknown program, but believe me,
it is very strong and when comparing prices you can see:

PaintShopPro   105 €
Photoshop   264-441 €
TV Paint Anim. Pro/Std.   950 €  / 475 €
GIMPfree OpenSource  :)

that TVPA is not just a shit-program, but has features that really make  
work with
images draw/edit more efficient.

let me know what do U think

ssuuddoo


On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:49:48 +0100, Raphaël Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:17:26 +0100, Radoslav Schudich  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 the available drawing modes should have these options too
 (there are plenty (21) drawing modes, but I definitly miss these:

 ERASE  (to be able to erase the drawing (not just one color) with any
 drawing
 NEGATIVE

 -it makes the drawing/editing easier, because when you want to erase
 something, you do not need to change your tool 2 eraser, but can choose  
 to
 erase the painting with the brush you currently have.

 Could you explain why it would be easier to do this with additional
 drawing modes instead of using the existing shortcuts to switch to the
 eraser and then switch back to your previous drawing tool?

 If you use the existing shortcuts for the tools or if you define new
 ones, then you only need to press the key for the eraser, erase what
 you want, and then press the key for the other paint tool to continue
 drawing.  You can do that without having to move the mouse to the tool
 options and change the paint mode, which is more cumbersome in my
 opinion.

 Also, for those who use a drawing tablet, it is much easier to switch
 tools than to play with drawing modes.

 -Raphaël
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2008-02-22 Thread Campbell Barton


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Re: [Gimp-developer] improved drawing modes

2008-02-22 Thread David Gowers
Hi,

I admit that if Erase were a paint mode, I would use it much more. The
eraser tool, I generally find does not happen to have brush settings
convenient to my current task, and so i find it cumbersome. So, I
think that erase as a paint mode is a good idea.
I do not understand this 'Negative' paint mode, Radoslav, and I think
you need to explain it.

Now that we are speaking of paint modes, I know that I would
personally find very useful one that recolors FG colored pixels to BG
color.

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Radoslav Schudich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, I know, it sounds like a waste, but trust me, it isnt. I firstly didnt
  even
  know what are those drawing modes for, but soon it fastened my work.
  I suppose they should have a shortcut key too.

  For example: You draw or edit an image with a simple brush, when you want
  to
  erase some stuff, you switch to the eraser, but this one has different
  brush size,
  shape, opacity than the first tool. Using different modes like erase and
  plenty more
  are efficent. (I admit, some of them I never used - solarise, and other
  modes,
  I do not use to use).

  Maybe I am explaining it wrong, but You can try it for your own.

  The program I used to work with is named TV Paint Animation,
  for someone it can be an unknown program, but believe me,
  it is very strong and when comparing prices you can see:

  PaintShopPro   105 €
  Photoshop   264-441 €
  TV Paint Anim. Pro/Std.   950 €  / 475 €
  GIMPfree OpenSource  :)

  that TVPA is not just a shit-program, but has features that really make
  work with
  images draw/edit more efficient.

  let me know what do U think

  ssuuddoo


  On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:49:48 +0100, Raphaël Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:



   On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:17:26 +0100, Radoslav Schudich
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   the available drawing modes should have these options too
   (there are plenty (21) drawing modes, but I definitly miss these:
  
   ERASE  (to be able to erase the drawing (not just one color) with any
   drawing
   NEGATIVE
  
   -it makes the drawing/editing easier, because when you want to erase
   something, you do not need to change your tool 2 eraser, but can choose
   to
   erase the painting with the brush you currently have.
  
   Could you explain why it would be easier to do this with additional
   drawing modes instead of using the existing shortcuts to switch to the
   eraser and then switch back to your previous drawing tool?
  
   If you use the existing shortcuts for the tools or if you define new
   ones, then you only need to press the key for the eraser, erase what
   you want, and then press the key for the other paint tool to continue
   drawing.  You can do that without having to move the mouse to the tool
   options and change the paint mode, which is more cumbersome in my
   opinion.
  
   Also, for those who use a drawing tablet, it is much easier to switch
   tools than to play with drawing modes.
  
   -Raphaël
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Pygtk errors at startup

2008-02-22 Thread M Gagnon
Hi,

 I just built GIMP on Mac OS X 10.4.11 from the latest svn sources but when I
 launch it I get these errors at startup (however, GIMP seems to run
 regardless):

 cube15:/Volumes/datacube/svn/gimp/trunk ep$ This is a development version of
 GIMP.  Debug messages may appear here.

 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /opt/gimp/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/py-slice.py, line 31, in ?
 from gimpfu import *
   File /opt/gimp/lib/gimp/2.0/python/gimpfu.py, line 74, in ?
 import gimp
 ImportError: could not import pygtk

 (gimp-2.5:13288): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp-2.5: gimp_wire_read(): error
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /opt/gimp/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/palette-to-gradient.py, line 17, in
 ?
 from gimpfu import *
   File /opt/gimp/lib/gimp/2.0/python/gimpfu.py, line 74, in ?
 import gimp
 ImportError: could not import pygtk

 (gimp-2.5:13288): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp-2.5: gimp_wire_read(): error

 Identical errors also for files:
 /opt/gimp/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/palette-sort.py, line 17
 /opt/gimp/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/palette-offset.py, line 17
 /opt/gimp/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/happy-valley-relief.py, line 20
 /opt/gimp/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/gimpcons.py, line 20
 /opt/gimp/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/foggify.py, line 20
 /opt/gimp/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/colorxhtml.py, line 25

 To build GIMP I used the instructions at
 http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/HowToCompileGimp/MacOSX

 with:

 $ ./autogen.sh  --without-mng --without-alsa --disable-alsatest --without-x
 --with-libtiff LDFLAGS=-L/opt/gtk/lib -L/opt/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib
 CPPFLAGS=-I/opt/gtk/include -I/opt/local/include -I/usr/local/include
 --prefix=/opt/gimp

 Any idea on how to fix those errors?

 Thx

 Ettore
   

Are you exporting the PYTHONPATH envrionment variable prior to launching 
GIMP, just like it is written in the above article? On my computer this 
is how I could fix these errors
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