Re: [Gimp-developer] Background color property for GIMP images

2009-04-25 Thread peter sikking

Peter (yahvuu) wrote:

 there's one solution i haven't seen yet:

 assign a background color to GIMP images. Not a layer, just a single  
 color.
 This way, the eraser can always work on alpha, and all layers  
 consistently can have an alpha channel.


I like the innovative nature of the idea.

but,

I am not sure about how general purpose this idea is.

- I would like to see some more thinking on how this influences the
   simplest case: importing an image without any transparency.
   how would that look like without introducing complication.
   simple things (in users' eyes) have to remain simple in the UI.

- I would like to see some more thinking on how this is related to
   the background color in the color chooser. coupled/decoupled?

 --ps

 founder + principal interaction architect
 man + machine interface works

 http://mmiworks.net/blog : on interaction architecture



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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP git - example workflows from some of our longer-term git users?

2009-04-25 Thread Ruben Vermeersch
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 13:34 +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 12:03 +0200, Michael Schumacher wrote:
   Von: Nils Philippsen n...@tiptoe.de
  
   On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 19:56 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote:
I don't think there is a need to reiterate a how-to on this mailing list
for how to work with git. It should be quite enough to read:
http://live.gnome.org/Git/Developers

and other git resources on the web. GIMP will not have a super-special 
workflow with regards to git. In fact, there is no workflow set in stone
yet, we will have to experiment to wee what works and what doesn't.
   
   Just a caveat since this isn't mentioned on the web page: Rebasing
   changes on a branch modifies history, so don't rebase changes that are
   publicly visible. Use rebasing only for your private changes which you
   haven't pushed yet.
  
  See, it's things like that that I would like to see mentioned more
  frequently and accompanied by the actual git commands (if possible).
 
 So where do you want it documented, I'll gladly write this up (with
 actual commands).

Let's keep it all in one place: http://live.gnome.org/Git and subpages
are where this kind of stuff belongs.

Cheers,
   Ruben


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http://www.savanne.be/
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[Gimp-developer] why do I need babl to UNINSTALL gimp?

2009-04-25 Thread gg
Hi,

I just wanted to clean out multiple gimp installations and went to  
uninstall a gimp cvs build.

make uninstall



checking for gmsgfmt... (cached) /usr/bin/gmsgfmt
checking for xgettext... (cached) /usr/bin/xgettext
checking for iso-codes... yes
checking for BABL... configure: error: Package requirements (babl =  
0.0.23) were not met:

Requested 'babl = 0.0.23' but version of babl is 0.0.22

Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
installed software in a non-standard prefix.

Alternatively, you may set the environment variables BABL_CFLAGS
and BABL_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
See the pkg-config man page for more details.

make: *** [config.status] Error 1


Do I really need to pull babl , build and install it just to UNINSTALL  
Gimp ??

TIA.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] why do I need babl to UNINSTALL gimp?

2009-04-25 Thread Owen

 Hi,

 I just wanted to clean out multiple gimp installations and went to
 uninstall a gimp cvs build.

 make uninstall



I am not that good at reading Makefiles, but I don't think uninstall
does anything and you are just doing a make?

Hence the requirement for a newer babl

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Re: [Gimp-developer] why do I need babl to UNINSTALL gimp?

2009-04-25 Thread gg
Owen wrote:
 Hi,

 I just wanted to clean out multiple gimp installations and went to
 uninstall a gimp cvs build.

 make uninstall
 
 
 
 I am not that good at reading Makefiles, but I don't think uninstall
 does anything and you are just doing a make?
 
 Hence the requirement for a newer babl
 

Thanks Owen, that would explain the error but I thought make reported 
something like no rule for target uninstall if it got fed crap.

maybe there's some default target in the gimp Makefiles that matches a 
non existent target. :?




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Re: [Gimp-developer] why do I need babl to UNINSTALL gimp?

2009-04-25 Thread Owen

 Owen wrote:
 Hi,

 I just wanted to clean out multiple gimp installations and went to
 uninstall a gimp cvs build.

 make uninstall



 I am not that good at reading Makefiles, but I don't think uninstall
 does anything and you are just doing a make?

 Hence the requirement for a newer babl


 Thanks Owen, that would explain the error but I thought make reported
 something like no rule for target uninstall if it got fed crap.

 maybe there's some default target in the gimp Makefiles that matches a
 non existent target. :?



Well, looking at the my Makefile (recent git build, line 873)  it reads;

uninstall: uninstall-recursive

Which doesn't seem to go anywhere. Just another mystery for me



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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP git - example workflows from some of our longer-term git users?

2009-04-25 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 17:17 +0200, Ruben Vermeersch wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 13:34 +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote:
  On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 12:03 +0200, Michael Schumacher wrote:
Von: Nils Philippsen n...@tiptoe.de
   
On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 19:56 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote:
 I don't think there is a need to reiterate a how-to on this mailing 
 list
 for how to work with git. It should be quite enough to read:
 http://live.gnome.org/Git/Developers
 
 and other git resources on the web. GIMP will not have a 
 super-special 
 workflow with regards to git. In fact, there is no workflow set in 
 stone
 yet, we will have to experiment to wee what works and what doesn't.

Just a caveat since this isn't mentioned on the web page: Rebasing
changes on a branch modifies history, so don't rebase changes that are
publicly visible. Use rebasing only for your private changes which you
haven't pushed yet.
   
   See, it's things like that that I would like to see mentioned more
   frequently and accompanied by the actual git commands (if possible).
  
  So where do you want it documented, I'll gladly write this up (with
  actual commands).
 
 Let's keep it all in one place: http://live.gnome.org/Git and subpages
 are where this kind of stuff belongs.

Okay, let's hope I can get something done until mid next week, I'll be
on vacation from then on for 3 weeks and will likely have low to no net
access.

Nils
-- 
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n...@tiptoe.de / n...@redhat.com
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Ever noticed that common sense isn't really all that common?
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Re: [Gimp-developer] why do I need babl to UNINSTALL gimp?

2009-04-25 Thread Martin Nordholts
Owen wrote:
 Well, looking at the my Makefile (recent git build, line 873) it reads;
 uninstall: uninstall-recursive

 Which doesn't seem to go anywhere. Just another mystery for me
   

The uninstall-recursive target is enumerated in the RECURSIVE_TARGETS 
variable. All recursive targets are defined in one place, look for 
$(RECURSIVE_TARGETS):. It basically calls subdirs and invokes the 
uninstall-am target, which is defined as uninstall-am: 
uninstall-binSCRIPTS uninstall-pkgconfigDATA.

HTH

- Martin
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