floating point (was: Re: [Gimp-developer] RH on Film Gimp and GIMP)

2002-12-04 Thread Tino Schwarze
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 06:39:16PM -0800, Jonathan Cohen wrote:

 We are seriously considering ripping out all modes except for
 32-bit floating point. This would drastically simplify the internal
 rendering engine and allow us to optimize it significantly.  Since we
 don't see any real reasons why high-end paint work could not be done
 entirely in 32-bit float, this is a reasonable thing.  

I'm just curious: What do you get by using 32-bit _float_? Why not use
1.31-Bit Fixed Point? It should have a higher precision than 32-bit
float - at least, it's precision is steady.

Bye, Tino.

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Re: floating point (was: Re: [Gimp-developer] RH on Film Gimp andGIMP)

2002-12-04 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:49:05AM +0100, Tino Schwarze wrote:
 I'm just curious: What do you get by using 32-bit _float_? Why not use
 1.31-Bit Fixed Point? It should have a higher precision than 32-bit
 float - at least, it's precision is steady.

The point is probably to be allowed to go below 0 or over 1 -- you might not
always want to work in a clamped range, like fixed point does.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Errors compiling gimp

2002-12-04 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Malcolm Tredinnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Err .. I didn't read the message correctly. You will need to edit the
 %install section and change the relevant strip command, not the %files
 %section. But I'm sure you get the general gist. Sorry about that.

and when you are done fixing the spec file, please contribute your
changes back. Actually I'm tempted to remove the spec file as well as
the debian directory since they are unmaintained and outdated and
shipping these non-functional versions won't help anyone.


Salut, Sven
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Re: floating point (was: Re: [Gimp-developer] RH on Film Gimp andGIMP)

2002-12-04 Thread Patrick McFarland
On 04-Dec-2002, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:49:05AM +0100, Tino Schwarze wrote:
  I'm just curious: What do you get by using 32-bit _float_? Why not use
  1.31-Bit Fixed Point? It should have a higher precision than 32-bit
  float - at least, it's precision is steady.
 
 The point is probably to be allowed to go below 0 or over 1 -- you might not
 always want to work in a clamped range, like fixed point does.
 

Yes, that would be very nice.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Errors compiling gimp

2002-12-04 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 01:21:51PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
  and when you are done fixing the spec file, please contribute your
  changes back. Actually I'm tempted to remove the spec file as well as
  the debian directory since they are unmaintained and outdated and
  shipping these non-functional versions won't help anyone.
 
 What about importing the latest debian/ directory from the latest Debian GIMP
 package, then take it from there?

sounds like a good idea. If you care, please attach the file or a
patch to bugzilla or send me that file. I don't care enough to go thru
the hassle of extracting the file from the debian package.


Salut, Sven
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[Gimp-developer] data/images/eek.png

2002-12-04 Thread Carol Spears
i was using data/images/eek.png on my desktop.  now it seems to be
missing.

is it gone forever?

carol

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Film Gimp and GIMP

2002-12-04 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On 02 Dec 2002 19:37:00 +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Robin Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Your GIMP team list at http://www.gimp.org/the_gimp_org_about.html
  includes Mattis and Kimball. Have they done anything with GIMP since
  1997?
 
 no, they haven't but of course they are still in the list of
 developers. The list on the web is not uptodate however.

From the list on www.gimp.org, the only developers who are still active
are Sven Neumann (neo in CVS logs), Michael Natterer (mitch) and Manish
Singh (yosh).  The other people listed there haven't contributed much in
the last months.

I don't know if this list should be updated or not.  Maybe when the new
site design is ready?  I don't think that we should remove the past
contributors anyway.  Maybe the list should include the new contributors
and maybe it should be sorted in a different order (importance of latest
contributions?  but who would estimate that?).

  Who is actively working on GIMP?
 
 http://cvs.gnome.org/lxr/source/gimp/ChangeLog

Another way to see this is to have a look at the CVS checkins in the
last week (about 168 hours).  This link will give you the full list
including the number of lines of code added or changed by each
contributor.  But do not call this too frequently, because this query
puts some strain on the server:
  http://cvs.gnome.org/bonsai/cvsquery.cgi?dir=gimpdate=hourshours=168

In summary, the most active developers are Mitch and Sven who get the
lion's share, followed by Yosh, Maurits Rijk, Dave Neary and some others
who contribute from a few dozens to a few hunded lines of code or
documentation per week.  There are also some contributions through
Bugzilla, but this is harder to evaluate.

-Raphaël
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Re: [Gimp-developer] data/images/eek.png

2002-12-04 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi Carol,

Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 i was using data/images/eek.png on my desktop.  now it seems to be
 missing.

I guess you refer to themes/Default/images/stock-wilber-eek.png which
used to get installed into $(gimpdatadir)/themes/Default/images. This
file has been renamed to stock-wilber-eek-64.png.

Or are you talking about pixmaps/eek.xpm from the 1.2 branch? That
file never got installed outside the gimp source tree.


Salut, Sven
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[Gimp-developer] Re: data/images/eek.png

2002-12-04 Thread Carol Spears
Sven, thanks
On 2002-12-04 at 1918.31 +0100, Sven Neumann typed this:
 Hi Carol,
 
 Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  i was using data/images/eek.png on my desktop.  now it seems to be
  missing.
 
 I guess you refer to themes/Default/images/stock-wilber-eek.png which
 used to get installed into $(gimpdatadir)/themes/Default/images. This
 file has been renamed to stock-wilber-eek-64.png.
 
i missed him and hate that gear thingie my desktop uses when an
image is unknown.  he is cute.

is this to be the final resting place for this and similar icons?

carol

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