Re: [Gimp-developer] The issue of JPEG Patents?

2004-04-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Joao S. O. Bueno [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Some Linux distributions, as well as popular windows binary packages
 come out without the GIF plug-in. It is usually downloadable as a
 separate plug-in with a note for the patent issues.
 
 This can be a major PITA sometimes (you need to do GIF, and just find 
 out the live Linux CD with GIMP on it is lacking the gif plug-in for 
 example)

Sure, but we can't do anything about that. We even added the
possibility to compile the GIF plug-in w/o support for LZW
compression. This allows packagers to include a GIF plug-in that
doesn't have any potential patent problems.

We will also not remove the JPEG plug-in from the GIMP tarball. If
packagers decide to not include it in their binary packages for
whatever reason, that's the problem of the packagers (and their
customers) then.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-developer] The issue of JPEG Patents?

2004-04-24 Thread Alan Horkan

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Daniel Rogers wrote:

 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 22:47:49 -0700
 From: Daniel Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Joao S. O. Bueno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] The issue of JPEG Patents?

 Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:
  On Friday 23 April 2004 18:39, Alan Horkan wrote:
 
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/23/forgent_jpeg_suit/
 
 Has the issue of Jpeg Patents been brought up yet?
 (a quick but not thorough search suggests not)
 
 
  hmmm...What about waiting until october, and THEM start the Gimp Foundation?
  You can't sue what does not exist


  Honestly...I got scared for the GIMP when I read about the thou shalt not
  open scanned-up money images  blurbs ...
  when I read about this JPEG patents, I did not even thought about the GIMP,
  because it's just too stupid. But..who knows where human greed can take us?

 Well you could still sue the plugin maintainer.  but that is no point.
 It is greed drivin, thus there is a second, implict rule, thou shall not
 sue that which has no money.

I was thinking that Jpeg support might have to be preemptively removed
like Gif support was removed.  (Although the Gif patents have expired in
America and will expire in Europe in June)

On reading more, some comments suggest that this issue might not be
specific enough to effect the Gimp but then I always believed Gif could
have been included in the Gimp if parts of the Gif compression had been
disabled but these issues are always more complicated than they
seem.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=105099cid=8948562

- Alan
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Re: [Gimp-developer] The issue of JPEG Patents?

2004-04-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was thinking that Jpeg support might have to be preemptively removed
 like Gif support was removed.  (Although the Gif patents have expired in
 America and will expire in Europe in June)

When was GIF support removed and why didn't I notice?


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Re: [Gimp-developer] The issue of JPEG Patents?

2004-04-23 Thread Daniel Rogers
Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:
On Friday 23 April 2004 18:39, Alan Horkan wrote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/23/forgent_jpeg_suit/

Has the issue of Jpeg Patents been brought up yet?
(a quick but not thorough search suggests not)


hmmm...What about waiting until october, and THEM start the Gimp Foundation?
You can't sue what does not exist


Honestly...I got scared for the GIMP when I read about the thou shalt not
open scanned-up money images  blurbs ...
when I read about this JPEG patents, I did not even thought about the GIMP, 
because it's just too stupid. But..who knows where human greed can take us?
Well you could still sue the plugin maintainer.  but that is no point. 
It is greed drivin, thus there is a second, implict rule, thou shall not 
sue that which has no money.

--
Dan
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