Re: get terrence brannon OFF these lists

1999-11-20 Thread Kevin Cozens

When you join the list, you get directions
on how to unsubscribe.  A rational being,
a thoughtful being, a being who belongs on
a technical list, will save these instructions,
and use them if needed.

This is true. However, the list changed from being based on majordomo to
ezmlm and the instructions changed. The new instructions were e-mailed out
to all on the list and the new info should have been saved.

Also, the information could have been sent directly to the individual and
saved some of the discussions on this list.


Cheers!

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Re: Review and better -- Clean up and Re: Help System (fwd)

1999-11-20 Thread Olof S Kylander

Hello Marc (and Gimpers)

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Marc Lehmann wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 11:04:51PM +0100, Olof S Kylander [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  * Make a script pkg with Script-Fu, Perl-Fu and Py-Fu scripts
 
 A small detail is unclear to me ;) Who is supposed to make that script-pack?
 Would the release tarball contain everything, inlcuding the script, which
 would just not get installed (or which would just now show up in the menu?)?


Sorry I forgot to answer one question, "Who is supposed to make that
script-pack". Well as I pointed out we need a "Plug-Script" maintainer
(one or a team). The "Plug-Script" maintainer(s) is supposed to make the
Packs.

Cheers Olof

PS: Well how volunteer to be a part of this team? I definitely into it, but I
think we need one or two more developers to be in the team.




Re: Gif crashes gimp

1999-11-20 Thread Marc Lehmann

On Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 07:36:34PM +, "Adam D. Moss" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  if I opened the attached gif with gimp, there are
  hundreds of error-messages within short time. The
  only thing I can do, is to kill X imidiate :(
 
 Hi!  Thanks for the report.  Fixed in CVS now.

And I limited the number of message boxes to 7 (and the number of message
boxes with the same message to 3), so these kind of bugs are less severe.

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Re: Modifier keys (second call for votes)

1999-11-20 Thread Olof S Kylander

Hello Sven 

This is Karins vote.

She I think circle restricts is the best. It gives you a better control
of what you are doing and it simply feels better. She would also love if 
you could make it snap to guide as I suggested in my mail yesterday.

Cheers Olof



On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Sven Neumann wrote:

 Hi,
 
 
 I haven't got many responses to my last mail (two votes to be exact), so I
 ask you once again. Speak up now or be quiet later!!
 
 Please check out CVS and test the blend tool (or apply the patch included 
 in my previous mail). Then decide which way you prefer:
 
 Holding Shift restricts you to 15 degrees and puts the endpoint 
 on the circle you are defining with your mouse and the startpoint.
 
 Holding Ctrl restricts you to 15 degrees too, but puts the endpoint
 on a rectangle defined by your mouse and the closest 15-degrees angle.
 
 The question is not which key to use (I'm planning to use Ctrl for it), 
 but which way of constraining movements to 15 degrees feels better. This
 only applies to the line draw mode of the paint tools and to the blend
 tool.
 
 Now vote!!
 
 
 Salut, Sven 
 
 



Re: Review and better -- Clean up and Re: Help System (fwd)

1999-11-20 Thread Olof S Kylander

Hello Steinar,


On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
 My idea is that Gimp 1.2 is delivered with all "scripts" and "filters"
 some of them aren't installed by default (most notably "scripts" but also
 some C plugins). They are instead installed in
 ..share/gimp/uninstalled_filters/core.
 
 I'm afraid I don't see the purpose of all this. I think novice GIMP users
 want to get all the features straight away, and not discover them three
 months later (this happened to me for Gimp-Perl, for instance). GIMP starts
 up fast enough as it is, doesn't it?


Fist in my view the hardest task is for a novice Gimp user to find the
right command to use. As of today we have five similar Color Maping
filters. The question is which one to use. 

Secondly, if we add all possible extra functions (C plugs, Script-Fu,
Perl-Fu and Python-Fu). The menu system will be very large and difficult
to navigate. Furthermore I think that the average user doesn't want to have
all that functionality (just ask your self how often do you use Draw HSV
Graph). There are also some functions that are only useful under some
conditions. Maybe the user never uses funcs like that? 

Finaly, if we have a script pack manager we can make packs of e.g all the
plugins and scripts available at registry.gimp.org . This will benefit the
user quite much since it will be very easy to install more funcs into
Gimp.  


 The user will also be informed
 that her Gimp environment isn't complete since she can't run e.g Perl
 "Scripts".
 
 While we're speaking about user-friendliness on this topic, my impression
 is that you'll have to install GIMP (`make install') _before_ you can
 configure Perl-Fu, which is a bit confusing. If you do
 `configure --enable-perl', configure automatically tries to configure in
 plug-ins/perl, which then fails (`GIMP is not installed'), which is a bit
 confusing. Is there (as usual) something wrong with my system, or is this
 just a glitch?


Well, the std ./configure will try to configure Perl-Fu/Python-Fu if it
fails it will still continue and enable you to build Gimp.

When you later try to install additional script you will be informed that
since XXX YYY Python-Fu isn't enabled on your system. Please XXXdasd erwe
to enable Perl-Fu. I mean there isn't anything saying that we can't inform
the user that there isn't any thing wrong with his system it only lacks
the necessary support to enable Python-Fu.

Cheers Olof