Re: [Gimp-developer] libmypaint

2015-10-04 Thread C R 
I'd love to see myPaint brushes come to GIMP. :) good luck!
On 4 Oct 2015 1:55 pm, "Thorsten Stettin" 
wrote:

> Am 03.10.2015 um 11:49 schrieb Michael Natterer:
>
>> On Sat, 2015-10-03 at 00:47 +0200, Thorsten Stettin wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm just integrate my homebrew Ubuntu package called libmypaint. But
>>> what's the impact regarding Gimp-2.9.x?
>>>
>> With libmypaint it builds the mypaint brush tool which you need
>> to enable in prefs -> playground. It's very experimental :)
>>
> Ok, I'll do my very best. :-D
>
>
>> Regards,
>> Mitch
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Portable development environment for GIMP

2015-10-04 Thread Liam R E Quin 
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 23:36:02 -0300 Gez  wrote:

> El mié, 30-09-2015 a las 23:49 +0200, Michael Natterer escribió:
> > I hope that nobody uses debian testing, the most unstable of
> > all debians :) 


> Sore feelings after the gcc-5 migration? :-)

More to the point for GIMP development, both Debian and Gentoo (also mentioned) 
are distributions that aim for a certain amount of systems administration 
knowledge from their users - e.g. the ability to edit a text-based 
configuration file now and again. It's fine for experienced developers and 
system administrators, and for keen hobbyists too :), but for the people who 
don't realize that there's a single command that will automatically download 
and install all those 100 build requires Sam mentioned :) maybe Fedora, Mageia 
or Ubuntu would be better.

For a VM I'm not sure it matters much what is used, although it takes me a day 
or two to download a Linux distribution here at speeds of up to 1.5Mbps so a 
lightweight distribution would seem to be a win.

But, given that for me it's almost always been a matter of git clone of 3 
packages, and running autogen.sh and make install on each of them with a 
prefix, I'm probably not in the target audience. In addition, people *not* 
running Debian and who needed to install additional software in the VM would 
need to learn a 2nd package management system, so the VM approach may be good 
for introducing people to the git version of gimp but not so good for longer 
term use. But hey, introducing people to development is a good thing.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Portable development environment for GIMP

2015-10-04 Thread Michael Schumacher 


On 10/03/2015 04:03 AM, Liam R E Quin wrote:

> [...] but for the people who don't realize that there's a single
> command that will automatically download and install all those 100
> build requires Sam mentioned :) maybe Fedora, Mageia or Ubuntu would
> be better.

If I got it right, the idea of vagrant is that all the packages you'll
need will be installed as part of the VM creation/startup.

NB: if it is intended for development that is going to be contributed
upstream, there should also be a step that makes them set up Git
correctly - by asking for their name and an email address they want to
see published with their commits.

And a Git alias for anonymous access to git.gnome.org might already be
set up as well.

> For a VM I'm not sure it matters much what is used, although it
> takes me a day or two to download a Linux distribution here at speeds
> of up to 1.5Mbps so a lightweight distribution would seem to be a win.

I'm pretty sure that Debian can fullfill that - if we don't blow it up
artificially, for example by adding desktop environments with many
additional dependencies.

Also, if there are multiple pre-made images to choose from, we could
either pick a really bare one, or one that has most of the dependencies
installed already (the whole of GTK+, for example).

> But, given that for me it's almost always been a matter of git clone
> of 3 packages, and running autogen.sh and make install on each of
> them with a prefix, I'm probably not in the target audience.

Defining the target audience and their expected use would be important,
I think. For example, do we expect people to keep this VM around for an
extended period of time, or would they get it, do some quick
development, and then get rid of the VM again?


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Re: [Gimp-developer] libmypaint

2015-10-04 Thread Thorsten Stettin 

Am 04.10.2015 um 15:12 schrieb C R:


I'd love to see myPaint brushes come to GIMP. :) good luck!


I forgot Scons as build dependency. Shame on me. :'(
I'm only human born to make mistakes.
On 4 Oct 2015 1:55 pm, "Thorsten Stettin" > wrote:


Am 03.10.2015 um 11:49 schrieb Michael Natterer:

On Sat, 2015-10-03 at 00:47 +0200, Thorsten Stettin wrote:

Hello,

I'm just integrate my homebrew Ubuntu package called
libmypaint. But
what's the impact regarding Gimp-2.9.x?

With libmypaint it builds the mypaint brush tool which you need
to enable in prefs -> playground. It's very experimental :)

Ok, I'll do my very best. :-D


Regards,
Mitch



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schaffen.
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dritte ist die Demut.
Nur der Liebende ist mutig, nur der Genügsame ist großzügig, nur
der Demütige ist fähig zu herrschen.


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Lao-Tse sagt: Nichtstun ist besser, als mit viel Mühe nichts zu schaffen.
Und er sagt auch: Ich habe drei Schätze, die ich hüte und hege.
Der eine ist die Liebe, der zweite ist die Genügsamkeit, der dritte ist die 
Demut.
Nur der Liebende ist mutig, nur der Genügsame ist großzügig, nur der Demütige 
ist fähig zu herrschen.

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