Re: [Gimp-developer] Problems with JPG?!
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 22:22:55 +, Kevin Payne wrote: > Yes it's almost certainly the bug that won't get fixed raising it's ugly head > again: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723153 Manufacturers simply aren't going to fix their firmware, particularly for older devices (read: are already on the market). And it's possible that a firmware fix wouldn't even be enough, since printers would need more memory to buffer the entire image rather than just reconstituting it one row of blocks at a time. There's also the added testing expense. Phones and cameras don't generate progressive JPEGs, so printer, TV, etc. manufacturers don't have any real incentive to support them. The manufacturers probably don't even write their own firmware; they contract it out. Progressive JPEGs are nice for displaying big images in browsers over slow links (which my 1500/368 DSL qualifies as). I admit that they're easier for me in that context. But given the confusion this is causing, and that it requires non-trivial knowledge (and tools) for people to fix after the fact, I'd argue that this should be revisited. > > From: gimp-developer-list on behalf > of Michael Schumacher > Sent: 31 January 2016 20:31 > To: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Problems with JPG?! > > Am 31.01.2016 um 16:29 schrieb Stefan Rohde: > >> I can not display images that I have prepared and saved with GIMP 2.8.14 >> (under Windows 10) in jpg-format on my TV or via a digital box (WD TV). > >> Do you have an idea or information !? > > It's most likely the Progressive option in the advanced part of the JPEG > export dialog. -- Robert Krawitz *** MIT Engineers A Proud Tradition http://mitathletics.com *** Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- http://ProgFree.org Project lead for Gutenprint --http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Problems with JPG?!
Yes it's almost certainly the bug that won't get fixed raising it's ugly head again: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723153 Kevin From: gimp-developer-list on behalf of Michael Schumacher Sent: 31 January 2016 20:31 To: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Problems with JPG?! Am 31.01.2016 um 16:29 schrieb Stefan Rohde: > I can not display images that I have prepared and saved with GIMP 2.8.14 > (under Windows 10) in jpg-format on my TV or via a digital box (WD TV). > Do you have an idea or information !? It's most likely the Progressive option in the advanced part of the JPEG export dialog. -- Regards, Michael GPG: 96A8 B38A 728A 577D 724D 60E5 F855 53EC B36D 4CDD ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Problems with JPG?!
Am 31.01.2016 um 16:29 schrieb Stefan Rohde: > I can not display images that I have prepared and saved with GIMP 2.8.14 > (under Windows 10) in jpg-format on my TV or via a digital box (WD TV). > Do you have an idea or information !? It's most likely the Progressive option in the advanced part of the JPEG export dialog. -- Regards, Michael GPG: 96A8 B38A 728A 577D 724D 60E5 F855 53EC B36D 4CDD ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Problems with JPG?!
Hi Mr. Rohde, please reply to all recipients. On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 16:29:43 +0100 Stefan Rohde wrote: > Dear GIMP-Team, > I can not display images that I have prepared and saved with GIMP 2.8.14 > (under Windows 10) in jpg-format on my TV or via a digital box (WD TV). > On my PC its no problem! > The Thumbnailes can be seen but the images can not be read! > I have also tried several setting for the jpg-saving. > > Other images I prepared with former versions are working well! > Can you send us a sample image ? It is possible that your television implements only a subset of the JPEG standard. To verify , can you let me know if the following JPEG file that I first converted to PNG using ImageMagick and then saved as JPEG From GIMP is fine: * http://www.shlomifish.org/Files/files/images/chickpeas.xcf.bz2 * http://www.shlomifish.org/Files/files/images/chickpeas-from-xcf.png * http://www.shlomifish.org/Files/files/images/chickpeas-from-xcf.jpg The SHA-256 sums for them are: cbb78ae42b96b2aa85ebce7ed6cc6e2378d13562b6076673df8edb57f6ad2f20 chickpeas-from-xcf.jpg a4a5dd3512b0b89f476647e287a4f18359bc99af9f06776c6a933ae7c4e7fd8d chickpeas-from-xcf.png 1f9b974716bda9f8374be083c044623bf3277e7f7fd3f95b56633b98354ccc20 chickpeas.xcf.bz2 Can you give an example of a JPEG file that your television views properly? Regards, Shlomi Fish > Do you have an idea or information !? > > Kind regards > Stefan Rohde > Germany > ___ > gimp-developer-list mailing list > List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Humanity - Parody of Modern Life - http://shlom.in/humanity When a FLOSS developer says they will work on something, he or she means “maybe”. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Problems with JPG?!
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 10:44:17PM +0530, Mukund Sivaraman wrote: > Hi Stefan > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 04:29:43PM +0100, Stefan Rohde wrote: > > Dear GIMP-Team, > > I can not display images that I have prepared and saved with GIMP 2.8.14 > > (under Windows 10) in jpg-format on my TV or via a digital box (WD TV). On > > my PC its no problem! > > The Thumbnailes can be seen but the images can not be read! > > I have also tried several setting for the jpg-saving. > > > > Other images I prepared with former versions are working well! > > > > Do you have an idea or information !? > > Can you create a GIMP bug ticket on bugzilla.gimp.org and attach a > sample JPEG image that is broken? Sorry that's https://bugzilla.gnome.org/ Mukund signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Problems with JPG?!
On 31.1.2016 at 4:29 PM Stefan Rohde wrote: I can not display images that I have prepared and saved with GIMP 2.8.14 (under Windows 10) in jpg-format on my TV or via a digital box (WD TV). On my PC its no problem! The Thumbnailes can be seen but the images can not be read! I have also tried several setting for the jpg-saving. Other images I prepared with former versions are working well! Do you have an idea or information !? Hi Stefan, did you also try various settings of the subsampling (in the German dialog box: Zwischenschritte, although 'Farbunterabtastung' is the proper translation here)? If you report a bug, please make sure to use version 2.8.16 which is the latest. Greetings Sven ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Problems with JPG?!
Hi Stefan On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 04:29:43PM +0100, Stefan Rohde wrote: > Dear GIMP-Team, > I can not display images that I have prepared and saved with GIMP 2.8.14 > (under Windows 10) in jpg-format on my TV or via a digital box (WD TV). On > my PC its no problem! > The Thumbnailes can be seen but the images can not be read! > I have also tried several setting for the jpg-saving. > > Other images I prepared with former versions are working well! > > Do you have an idea or information !? Can you create a GIMP bug ticket on bugzilla.gimp.org and attach a sample JPEG image that is broken? Mukund signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list