Re: [Gimp-developer] Adjustment-layers in GIMP?

2004-04-02 Thread Dave Neary
Carol,

Carol Spears wrote:
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 02:46:24AM +0200, Baard Ove Kopperud wrote:
I'm not 100% sure I understand your question, but I'll
try to explain how it works (from the users pov) in PS...
okay, i am at a disadvantage here as i am not a photoshop user nor a
gimp developer -- however, i will try to describe what the developers
need before they will help you.
You are hardly an authority on this. This feature has long been on the TODO list 
of the GIMP, but it has not yet been done.

Cheers,
Dave.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Adjustment-layers in GIMP?

2004-04-02 Thread Carol Spears
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 11:36:19AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
 Carol,
 
 Carol Spears wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 02:46:24AM +0200, Baard Ove Kopperud wrote:
 I'm not 100% sure I understand your question, but I'll
 try to explain how it works (from the users pov) in PS...
 
 okay, i am at a disadvantage here as i am not a photoshop user nor a
 gimp developer -- however, i will try to describe what the developers
 need before they will help you.
 
 You are hardly an authority on this. This feature has long been on the TODO 
 list of the GIMP, but it has not yet been done.
 
not an authority about what -- that i am not a photoshop user or that i
am not a gimp developer?

carol

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Adjustment-layers in GIMP?

2004-04-02 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

Carol Spears wrote:
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 11:36:19AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
Carol Spears wrote:
okay, i am at a disadvantage here as i am not a photoshop user nor a
gimp developer -- however, i will try to describe what the developers
need before they will help you.
You are hardly an authority on this. This feature has long been on the TODO 
list of the GIMP, but it has not yet been done.

not an authority about what -- that i am not a photoshop user or that i
am not a gimp developer?
Not an authority on what the GIMP developers need before they will or will not 
help someone.

Cheers,
Dave.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Adjustment-layers in GIMP?

2004-04-02 Thread Carol Spears
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 06:49:29PM +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Carol Spears wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 11:36:19AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
 Carol Spears wrote:
 okay, i am at a disadvantage here as i am not a photoshop user nor a
 gimp developer -- however, i will try to describe what the developers
 need before they will help you.
 
 You are hardly an authority on this. This feature has long been on the 
 TODO list of the GIMP, but it has not yet been done.
 
 not an authority about what -- that i am not a photoshop user or that i
 am not a gimp developer?
 
 Not an authority on what the GIMP developers need before they will or will 
 not help someone.
 
i might have the acronyms wrong, but this was their problem with adobes
tiff.  they were trying to make something that was completely adobes
invention, that they had better ideas about and that adobe changed
without explaining as well.

mr neary, i guess we are equally good at passing on misinformation about
what the developers want and need.

carol

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[Gimp-developer] Adjustment-layers in GIMP?

2004-04-01 Thread Baard Ove Kopperud
I must shamefully admit that I have yet to try GIMP 2.0, so
if adjustments-layers is part of it, then I appolegize for
post.
+++

I've been using both PhotoShop and GIMP for some time, and
one of the few things from PS I really *miss* in GIMP is
the ability to make adjustment-layers -- i.e. layers that
contains *only* adjustments (curves, levels, hue-sat., color
balance) and not any picture... however, when you look at
underlaying layers through it, they are as if you'd applied
those adjustments to them.  Adjustment-layers makes it
very easy to test out the result of multiple adjustments,
as you can make several adjustment-layers and turn one or
more of the visible -- thus applying that/those adjustments
to the picture.
I was therefor wondering if GIMP has such fuctionality --
either buildt-in or through plug-ins (and it's just me who
haven't found it), if it's just been introduced (with 2.0), if
it's something that's being worked on, or if it for some
reason can't or won't be added... ever.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Adjustment-layers in GIMP?

2004-04-01 Thread Carol Spears
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 01:03:43AM +0200, Baard Ove Kopperud wrote:
 I must shamefully admit that I have yet to try GIMP 2.0, so
 if adjustments-layers is part of it, then I appolegize for
 post.
 
 +++
 
 I've been using both PhotoShop and GIMP for some time, and
 one of the few things from PS I really *miss* in GIMP is
 the ability to make adjustment-layers -- i.e. layers that
 contains *only* adjustments (curves, levels, hue-sat., color
 balance) and not any picture... however, when you look at
 underlaying layers through it, they are as if you'd applied
 those adjustments to them.  Adjustment-layers makes it
 very easy to test out the result of multiple adjustments,
 as you can make several adjustment-layers and turn one or
 more of the visible -- thus applying that/those adjustments
 to the picture.
 

adjusted to what? is there an api for this?

carol

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Adjustment-layers in GIMP?

2004-04-01 Thread William Skaggs
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 01:03:43AM +0200, Baard Ove Kopperud wrote:
 I must shamefully admit that I have yet to try GIMP 2.0, so
 if adjustments-layers is part of it, then I appolegize for
 post. 

This falls into the category of frequently asked questions.
They are often called effect layers; the answer is that GIMP 2.0
does not have them, but they are highly desired; it is expected
that they will be much easier to implement once GIMP is ported
to the new GEGL architecture.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Adjustment-layers in GIMP?

2004-04-01 Thread Carol Spears
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 02:46:24AM +0200, Baard Ove Kopperud wrote:
 On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 15:34:18 -0800, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 01:03:43AM +0200, Baard Ove Kopperud wrote:
 
 adjusted to what? is there an api for this?
 
 I'm not 100% sure I understand your question, but I'll
 try to explain how it works (from the users pov) in PS...
 
okay, i am at a disadvantage here as i am not a photoshop user nor a
gimp developer -- however, i will try to describe what the developers
need before they will help you.

API is the new thing but there used to be such a thing as RF* as well.
these ideas are a set of rules that code should follow.  a plan or a
same path thing.  since they do not copy photoshop, a list of the
rules involving this adjustment layer would need to be published
somewhere for everyone to review -- pick apart -- optimize, search for
redundancies and agree on definitions and naming.

somewhere in all the API goings on, RTFM is usually happening also.
perhaps you could paste a url with the technical aspects of what you are
asking for.

carol

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