Re: [Gimp-developer] Another set of feature-wishes regarding Guides

2010-08-22 Thread LightningIsMyName
Hello,

On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Tobias Ellinghaus h...@gmx.de wrote:
 Am Samstag, 7. August 2010 schrub oli...@first.in-berlin.de:
  it is possible to make guides invisible/visible
  and to make them magnetic/nonmagnetic.
 
  Both features are independent, which is good for some situations.
 
  To make them invisible as well as non-magnetic at the same time,
  two check boxes must be enabled/disabled.
 
  The possibility to make both with one click would be fine:
  visible  magnetic / invisible  non-magnetic.

 I don't have an installed GIMP around so I cannot test it:
 are invisible guides magnetic? If not then your request is void as making them
 invisible will also make them non-magnetic. If yes then that sounds (at least
 to me) like a bug/design flaw.

I actually use invisible guides quite a lot - especially when
designing things like website layouts - I want to snap to the layout's
rectangles after I drew them, but I don't won't them to clutter my
view (especially since in some situations you can have quite a lot of
guides)

There are many more cases in which invisible magnetic guides can be
useful - usually these situations involve many guides where it's
visible directly on the drawing itself where the lines are.

The fact that snapping and visibility are independent is very useful,
and I do wish to keep it this way. If the two clicks really bother
some people, I suggest assigning a short-cut key to both features to
do this quickly.

But, Since I agree it can be confusing, I suggest that when hiding
guides which are still magnetic, a message will be displayed in the
status-bar at the bottom of the image saying something like Note that
the guides are hidden but still used for snapping.

~LightningIsMyName
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Another set of feature-wishes regarding Guides

2010-08-21 Thread oliver
On Sat, Aug 07, 2010 at 07:07:00PM +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
 Am Samstag, 7. August 2010 schrub oli...@first.in-berlin.de:
  Hello,
  
  1)
  
  it is possible to make guides invisible/visible
  and to make them magnetic/nonmagnetic.
  
  Both features are independent, which is good for some situations.
  
  To make them invisible as well as non-magnetic at the same time,
  two check boxes must be enabled/disabled.
  
  The possibility to make both with one click would be fine:
  visible  magnetic / invisible  non-magnetic.
 
 I don't have an installed GIMP around so I cannot test it:
 are invisible guides magnetic? If not then your request is void as making 
 them 
 invisible will also make them non-magnetic. If yes then that sounds (at least 
 to me) like a bug/design flaw.
[...]

OK, today I'm in the Gimp-bugfile-contest... my second bug for today:
  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627588


...maybe I will add moreif time allows.
(I rather should edit my pics, but if that shows me more bugs...)


Ciao,
   Oliver
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[Gimp-developer] Another set of feature-wishes regarding Guides

2010-08-07 Thread oliver
Hello,

1)

it is possible to make guides invisible/visible
and to make them magnetic/nonmagnetic.

Both features are independent, which is good for some situations.

To make them invisible as well as non-magnetic at the same time,
two check boxes must be enabled/disabled.

The possibility to make both with one click would be fine:
visible  magnetic / invisible  non-magnetic.

Also it would be fine to have keyboard-shortcuts for all those
check-boxes.


2)

an even more advaned usage of Guides would be, to have Guide-layers.
One could disable guides on a guide-layer completely, when swictching off
the eye for that layer, and enable them again like any other layer,
when clicking on the corresponding layers-eye.

With that feature one could do very complex graphics easily.

Together with layer-groups, one could have layer-group specific guides,
which will make it even more powerful.

Guides that will not be part of a group would be acting globally,
and guides that are part of a layer-group would be activated
only together with that group.


Ciao,
   Oliver
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Another set of feature-wishes regarding Guides

2010-08-07 Thread LightningIsMyName
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 4:23 PM,  oli...@first.in-berlin.de wrote:
 it is possible to make guides invisible/visible
 and to make them magnetic/nonmagnetic.

 Both features are independent, which is good for some situations.

 To make them invisible as well as non-magnetic at the same time,
 two check boxes must be enabled/disabled.

 The possibility to make both with one click would be fine:
 visible  magnetic / invisible  non-magnetic.

 Also it would be fine to have keyboard-shortcuts for all those
 check-boxes.

You can already do this to all the guides at once:
View-Show Guides
View-Snap to guides

 an even more advaned usage of Guides would be, to have Guide-layers.
 One could disable guides on a guide-layer completely, when swictching off
 the eye for that layer, and enable them again like any other layer,
 when clicking on the corresponding layers-eye.

 With that feature one could do very complex graphics easily.

 Together with layer-groups, one could have layer-group specific guides,
 which will make it even more powerful.

 Guides that will not be part of a group would be acting globally,
 and guides that are part of a layer-group would be activated
 only together with that group.

The layer stack is definetly not the place for putting guides (at
least that's my opinion). We can however consider adding groups for
guides which indeed sounds more reasonable. Since implementing angular
guides (which I tried yesterday) requires rewriting many of the guides
code, I can try to add this as part of the re-write. Note however that
I think that a flat list of guide groups is enough - implemeting a
tree of groups sounds much more than needed.
I believe that guide groups shouldn't be added to the layer stack
since it's cluttered enough as it is, and since having a dedicated
dialog for guide groups sounds much more productive.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Another set of feature-wishes regarding Guides

2010-08-07 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Samstag, 7. August 2010 schrub oli...@first.in-berlin.de:
 Hello,
 
 1)
 
 it is possible to make guides invisible/visible
 and to make them magnetic/nonmagnetic.
 
 Both features are independent, which is good for some situations.
 
 To make them invisible as well as non-magnetic at the same time,
 two check boxes must be enabled/disabled.
 
 The possibility to make both with one click would be fine:
 visible  magnetic / invisible  non-magnetic.

I don't have an installed GIMP around so I cannot test it:
are invisible guides magnetic? If not then your request is void as making them 
invisible will also make them non-magnetic. If yes then that sounds (at least 
to me) like a bug/design flaw.

 Also it would be fine to have keyboard-shortcuts for all those
 check-boxes.

It should be possible to assign them youself.

[...]

 Ciao,
Oliver

Tobias


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Re: [Gimp-developer] Another set of feature-wishes regarding Guides

2010-08-07 Thread oliver
On Sat, Aug 07, 2010 at 07:07:00PM +0200, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
 Am Samstag, 7. August 2010 schrub oli...@first.in-berlin.de:
  Hello,
  
  1)
  
  it is possible to make guides invisible/visible
  and to make them magnetic/nonmagnetic.
  
  Both features are independent, which is good for some situations.
  
  To make them invisible as well as non-magnetic at the same time,
  two check boxes must be enabled/disabled.
  
  The possibility to make both with one click would be fine:
  visible  magnetic / invisible  non-magnetic.
 
 I don't have an installed GIMP around so I cannot test it:
 are invisible guides magnetic?
[...]

Yes.

And this can be very irritating/annoying.


 If not then your request is void as making them 
 invisible will also make them non-magnetic. If yes then that sounds (at least 
 to me) like a bug/design flaw.

Aha :)


 
  Also it would be fine to have keyboard-shortcuts for all those
  check-boxes.
 
 It should be possible to assign them youself.
[...]

OK.


Ciao,
   Oliver
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