Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.6: user directory reorganization

2007-11-06 Thread jernej
On Tuesday, November 6, 2007, 19:45:16, Michael Grosberg wrote:

> Better yet, just put it in the program files folder. This is the Windows
> "norm" for such files.

No, it isn't. User's files belong to the user's profile directory -
not just that, but you can't write to Program Files as a normal user
at all (this is especially enforced in Vista, where even
Administrators are normally running with reduced privileges, unless
the program specifically requested to be elevated, and user clicked
away the UAC prompt).

> Jernej, it was suggested here that the Gimp for Windows page could be
> updated to use the new Gimp.org look. Can I be of help with that? 

I won't mind - web design just isn't my forte :)

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.6: user directory reorganization

2007-11-06 Thread Michael Grosberg

On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 15:21 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Monday, November 5, 2007, 21:38:52, Richard Hirner wrote:
> 
> > What about an option somewhere in the GIMP menus: "Open brushes folder" 
> > which
> > opens the appropriate folder with Explorer / Nautilus / whatever needed?
> 
> That would be one solution.
> 

Better yet, just put it in the program files folder. This is the Windows
"norm" for such files.

Jernej, it was suggested here that the Gimp for Windows page could be
updated to use the new Gimp.org look. Can I be of help with that? 

Michael  

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.6: user directory reorganization

2007-11-06 Thread jernej
On Monday, November 5, 2007, 21:38:52, Richard Hirner wrote:

> What about an option somewhere in the GIMP menus: "Open brushes folder" which
> opens the appropriate folder with Explorer / Nautilus / whatever needed?

That would be one solution.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.6: user directory reorganization

2007-11-05 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 20:38 +, Richard Hirner wrote:

> What about an option somewhere in the GIMP menus: "Open brushes folder" which
> opens the appropriate folder with Explorer / Nautilus / whatever needed?

There can be more than one brush folder.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.6: user directory reorganization

2007-11-05 Thread Richard Hirner
On Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 08:02:10PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> While I agree that putting resources in My Documents is a bad thing,
> the problem with Application Data is that it's a hidden folder, which
> normally isn't accessible.

What about an option somewhere in the GIMP menus: "Open brushes folder" which
opens the appropriate folder with Explorer / Nautilus / whatever needed?

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.6: user directory reorganization

2007-11-05 Thread jernej
On Monday, November 5, 2007, 11:23:55, Michael Grosberg wrote:

> Putting resources in the user's "my documents" folder is bad form - 
> this is a folder for *documents*, not resources.

While I agree that putting resources in My Documents is a bad thing,
the problem with Application Data is that it's a hidden folder, which
normally isn't accessible.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.6: user directory reorganization

2007-11-05 Thread Esteban Barahona
2007/11/5, Michael Grosberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Michael Schumacher  gmx.de> writes:
>
> >
> > My suggestion for GIMP 2.6 - and the only thing I feel able to
> > contribute to - is the reorganization of the user directory.
>
> Not sure about the standards on Linux, but in Windows, if we take a
> hint from the likes of Adobe or Autodesk, user-modifiable program
> resources (such as: brushes, maps, plugins, gradients, etc) are either
> in C:\program files\appname\whatever or in
> C:\Documents and Settings\username\application data\appname\whatever.
>
> For photoshop, both are used - resources that come with the app are
> in the program files folder, and user-saved settings are in the
> application data folder.
>
> Putting resources in the user's "my documents" folder is bad form -
> this is a folder for *documents*, not resources.
>
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.6: user directory reorganization

2007-11-05 Thread Michael Grosberg
Michael Schumacher  gmx.de> writes:

> 
> My suggestion for GIMP 2.6 - and the only thing I feel able to
> contribute to - is the reorganization of the user directory.

Not sure about the standards on Linux, but in Windows, if we take a 
hint from the likes of Adobe or Autodesk, user-modifiable program 
resources (such as: brushes, maps, plugins, gradients, etc) are either
in C:\program files\appname\whatever or in 
C:\Documents and Settings\username\application data\appname\whatever.

For photoshop, both are used - resources that come with the app are 
in the program files folder, and user-saved settings are in the
application data folder.

Putting resources in the user's "my documents" folder is bad form - 
this is a folder for *documents*, not resources.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.6: user directory reorganization

2007-11-05 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 21:55 +0100, Michael Schumacher wrote:

> There is a project called CREATE which does have a spec for
> resource/asset directory organization, I hope to be able to use it for
> the visible user stuff, at least.

I suggest that you also have a look at the basedir specification at
freedesktop.org. There are already utility functions in GLib to access
these and other directories. If the XDG spec collides with the Create
spec, then this collision should be resolved first.


Sven


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