Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 icon

2011-08-23 Thread Ramón Miranda
Thanks a lot for the offer cc5 inator. These icons are very well made. i
like them. And i like the idea of a serie of interviews with different
artists. I think this could be very interesting for averybody, coders,
designers etc. i would suggest some names because i can´t suggest mine (it
is not polite, but i am available too if it is required :) )

*Guillermo Espertino.* http://www.ohweb.com.ar/ some videos here.
http://www.youtube.com/user/gespertino
More known as gez.he is an Expert in color management and integrates blender
inkscape and gimp in his workflow.

*JesusDA*. http://www.jesusda.com/ he only uses freesoftware. he is web
designer and FLOSS consultant.he has made a lot of gimp tutorials and it is
a reference here in Spain.

*David Revoy* http://www.davidrevoy.com/blog.php freelance Artist from
France. Worked in Sintel open source movie and it is involved in lot of
projects.

*Mozart Couto* http://blogdodesenhador.blogspot.com/ Fine arts and digital
Artist. lot of experience with tablets, programs and techniques. the Word
Dicas means tutorial.

*Voxmortem* http://voxmortem.deviantart.com/ he is from poland and has some
really interesting pieces of art.

*LJFhutch* http://www.ljfhutch.com/ Specialized in game content creation.



2011/8/23 Tobias Ehni tobias.e...@googlemail.com

 Hi,

 thanks a lot for your offer and for providing samples of your work, too.
 I'm impressed that you did logos for blender and Battle for Wesnoth.
 I'm sorry that I can't tell you anything about creating the next logo,
 however there is also another way to contribute to the GIMP community.

 I'm planning to conduct interviews with graphic / interface / web
 designers and photographers.
 The idea is to better understand how users actually work in the field,
 i.e. what they do and how they do it.
 The insights from the interviews will be used to improve ease of use /
 usability of GIMP.
 Interviews are planned to take place in October, with an interview
 taking about one hour, via VoIP.

 I'd be very happy if you decided to help both GIMP team and users by
 being interviewed about your work.

 Feel free to contact me if you have any further questions.

 Kind regards,

 Tobi

 2011/8/22 c55 inator c55ina...@gmail.com:
  Hello. I'm a graphic designer with experience in creating Application
 icons
  [Like this, this, or this] and I was wondering if I could be of service
 in
  helping create GIMP's next application icon. I use GIMP on a daily basis
 in
  my work and I'd love to contribute something back to the community.  Any
  information regarding ways I could help would be greatly appreciated :)
  My work, if you're curious: http://dribbble.com/ollin
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 icon

2011-08-23 Thread gg
On 08/23/11 14:22, Tobias Ehni wrote:
 Thanks for suggesting some names from the artist scene.
 That's very helpful for me and the entire project.


 2011/8/23 Ramón Mirandamirandagrap...@gmail.com:
 Thanks a lot for the offer cc5 inator. These icons are very well made. i
 like them. And i like the idea of a serie of interviews with different
 artists. I think this could be very interesting for averybody, coders,
 designers etc. i would suggest some names because i can´t suggest mine (it
 is not polite, but i am available too if it is required :) )

 Guillermo Espertino. http://www.ohweb.com.ar/ some videos here.
 http://www.youtube.com/user/gespertino
 More known as gez.he is an Expert in color management and integrates blender
 inkscape and gimp in his workflow.

 JesusDA. http://www.jesusda.com/ he only uses freesoftware. he is web
 designer and FLOSS consultant.he has made a lot of gimp tutorials and it is
 a reference here in Spain.

 David Revoy http://www.davidrevoy.com/blog.php freelance Artist from France.
 Worked in Sintel open source movie and it is involved in lot of projects.

 Mozart Couto http://blogdodesenhador.blogspot.com/ Fine arts and digital
 Artist. lot of experience with tablets, programs and techniques. the Word
 Dicas means tutorial.

 Voxmortem http://voxmortem.deviantart.com/ he is from poland and has some
 really interesting pieces of art.

 LJFhutch http://www.ljfhutch.com/ Specialized in game content creation.



 2011/8/23 Tobias Ehnitobias.e...@googlemail.com

 Hi,

 thanks a lot for your offer and for providing samples of your work, too.
 I'm impressed that you did logos for blender and Battle for Wesnoth.
 I'm sorry that I can't tell you anything about creating the next logo,
 however there is also another way to contribute to the GIMP community.

 I'm planning to conduct interviews with graphic / interface / web
 designers and photographers.
 The idea is to better understand how users actually work in the field,
 i.e. what they do and how they do it.
 The insights from the interviews will be used to improve ease of use /
 usability of GIMP.
 Interviews are planned to take place in October, with an interview
 taking about one hour, via VoIP.

 I'd be very happy if you decided to help both GIMP team and users by
 being interviewed about your work.

 Feel free to contact me if you have any further questions.

 Kind regards,

 Tobi

 2011/8/22 c55 inatorc55ina...@gmail.com:
 Hello. I'm a graphic designer with experience in creating Application
 icons
 [Like this, this, or this] and I was wondering if I could be of service
 in
 helping create GIMP's next application icon. I use GIMP on a daily basis
 in
 my work and I'd love to contribute something back to the community.  Any
 information regarding ways I could help would be greatly appreciated :)
 My work, if you're curious: http://dribbble.com/ollin
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Oh if there is a competent artist offering to provide a decent looking 
logo/icon for Gimp , please don't refuse the offer.

The current wilber annoys me every time I see it.

I installed Gimp for my mother (a working artist) and she demanded that 
I change the icon on her desktop.

Sorry if this was the handy work of someone's girlfriend, mother or 
beloved eight-year-old daughter but it is high time the project had a 
more credible image.

If someone's offering, please ask for some sample designs.

/gg/




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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 icon

2011-08-23 Thread c55 inator
@Tobias:
Glad you like my work.  I'd love to conduct an interview but unfortunately,
VoiP is not an option, and it would have to be done via a text-based
platform like Google Talk or email.  I realize that this is rather
inconvenient, so I won't trouble you by insisting on an interview–if you are
still willing, I'd love the opportunity to contribute.

I'm fine about the icon; I will probably release a replacement eventually,
and I understand that you may wish to keep a consistent designer throughout
GIMP's development.  I look forward to seeing where the icon goes in the
next release.  An icon is a crucial part of a program, because to the user,
it *is* the program–they drag the program around, place the program in
their dock or desktop, and click on the program to launch it, all while
using the metaphor of the icon.  The icons of similar applications, like
those of 
Pixelmatorhttp://jonwhipple.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/PixelmatorIcon.png
 or Acorn http://macin.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/acorn-2-2-2-icon.png,
use their icons to communicate the beauty and artistic nature of their
respective programs.  GIMP is a powerful, wonderful platform, but to many
users–from the time they go to the website to the time they launch it–it
doesn't seem that way.  I trust that GIMP's next icon will have been
designed with this in mind.

Thanks for hearing my proposal, best of luck in GIMP development.  I'd love
to help if ever there is an opportunity, and I thank you all for creating
such a great product :)

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Tobias Ehni tobias.e...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 thanks a lot for your offer and for providing samples of your work, too.
 I'm impressed that you did logos for blender and Battle for Wesnoth.
 I'm sorry that I can't tell you anything about creating the next logo,
 however there is also another way to contribute to the GIMP community.

 I'm planning to conduct interviews with graphic / interface / web
 designers and photographers.
 The idea is to better understand how users actually work in the field,
 i.e. what they do and how they do it.
 The insights from the interviews will be used to improve ease of use /
 usability of GIMP.
 Interviews are planned to take place in October, with an interview
 taking about one hour, via VoIP.

 I'd be very happy if you decided to help both GIMP team and users by
 being interviewed about your work.

 Feel free to contact me if you have any further questions.

 Kind regards,

 Tobi

 2011/8/22 c55 inator c55ina...@gmail.com:
  Hello. I'm a graphic designer with experience in creating Application
 icons
  [Like this, this, or this] and I was wondering if I could be of service
 in
  helping create GIMP's next application icon. I use GIMP on a daily basis
 in
  my work and I'd love to contribute something back to the community.  Any
  information regarding ways I could help would be greatly appreciated :)
  My work, if you're curious: http://dribbble.com/ollin
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 icon

2011-08-23 Thread c55 inator
@Tobias

Ah.  The usability guy?  I'd love to talk usability, noticed a few usability
issues in 2.7.1 [the only one available to me on OSX, don't know how many
issues have been fixed] if you're interested, send me an email :)

I asked on #gimp and the one person who responded told me to ask the
developer mailing list :) that's why I'm here.  I could check again, I
suppose.

No worries, is there someone ultimately responsible for the icon?  I suppose
the icon is probably not a pressing concern among the devs :/ and I'm not
familiar with how the icon got decided the last couple of times.  Maybe
talking to the previous designer would be a good idea?  Thanks for helping,
know the icon isn't your responsibility.

I'll look forward to the interview, as I said I really appreciate the
opportunity–hopefully you can send me more details as the time approaches?


Oh, and most of what I said is drawn from the holy grail of ui, the Apple
interface 
guidelineshttp://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/OSXHIGuidelines.pdf,
which covers icons, gui, interaction–everything design related in an app.
 Very handy reference, it explains the standards and, more importantly, the
thoughts behind them.

Best of luck.

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Tobias Ehni tobias.e...@googlemail.comwrote:

 @c55 inator to clarify:

 I'm just the usability guy on the project, not a developer or maintainer.
 I'm not entitled to deciding upon the icon of GIMP.
 To find out who is, maybe checking the irc channel might help
 (http://www.gimp.org/irc.html).
 I did not mean to refuse your offer.

 I just wanted to recruit you for an interview, because your work showed me
 that
 you are one of the guys I'm interested in for these interviews... ;-)
 ...for which we can use a text-based platform (in October, when the
 interviews will be conducted).
 And I think you're right about what you're writing about icons.

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