Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP GIT: window hints and text move

2010-01-25 Thread peter sikking
Akkana,

>> With GIMP 2.6 Metacity works fine.  Seems a bit of a stretch to force
>> people to change window managers with 2.7 just so it doesn't do this.
>
> Agreed. It works if you use "Utility window" as the hint for the
> toolbox and docks, but then they stay on top of the image window
> unless you hide them completely with Tab.


stay on top is the intended behaviour. for toolbox, palettes
and inspectors this is how it should work, in general.

 --ps

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP GIT: window hints and text move

2010-01-25 Thread Akkana Peck
Michael J. Hammel writes:
> I start 2.7 in one
> workspace, then switch to another, then back to the GIMP workspace.  The
> toolbox and docks are gone - I can't find them in any workspace.  Only
> the image window remains visible.  Tabbing doesn't change anything.
[ ... ]
> I searched but the closest I found was #595708.  Not sure if this is
> related or not.

Bug 556896.

> With GIMP 2.6 Metacity works fine.  Seems a bit of a stretch to force
> people to change window managers with 2.7 just so it doesn't do this.

Agreed. It works if you use "Utility window" as the hint for the
toolbox and docks, but then they stay on top of the image window
unless you hide them completely with Tab.

...Akkana
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP GIT: window hints and text move

2010-01-24 Thread Michael J. Hammel
On Fri, 2010-01-22 at 16:42 +, Omari Stephens wrote:
> On 01/22/2010 05:22 AM, Michael J. Hammel wrote:
> I start 2.7 in one
> > workspace, then switch to another, then back to the GIMP workspace.  The
> > toolbox and docks are gone - I can't find them in any workspace.  Only
> > the image window remains visible.
> 
> This is a window-manager-specific issue.  From what I recall, some 
> window managers are broken either way, and this was judged the lesser of 
> two evils.
> I don't know the bug number off-hand, and can't find it, but it's 
> somewhere in bugzilla.  Neo pointed me at it around a year ago, but I've 
> since lost track.

I searched but the closest I found was #595708.  Not sure if this is
related or not.

With GIMP 2.6 Metacity works fine.  Seems a bit of a stretch to force
people to change window managers with 2.7 just so it doesn't do this.
It would be nice, at a minimum, to know which window manager is
recommended to get the correct behavior.

If I knew the right bug number it might help me understand it better.
Maybe Metacity is being updated to address the issue.
-- 
Michael J. Hammel   
mjham...@graphics-muse.org / http://www.graphics-muse.org
--
Idiocy:  Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large crowds.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP GIT: window hints and text move

2010-01-22 Thread Omari Stephens
On 01/22/2010 05:22 AM, Michael J. Hammel wrote:
::snip? SNIP!::
> 2. I'm using multi-window mode in 2.7.  I'm using GNOME and the
> Workspace Switcher with 12 workspaces in two rows.  I start 2.7 in one
> workspace, then switch to another, then back to the GIMP workspace.  The
> toolbox and docks are gone - I can't find them in any workspace.  Only
> the image window remains visible.  Tabbing doesn't change anything.  I
> have seen this with window manager hints set to either Normal Window and
> Utility Window.  I've not tried Keep Above.  Am I perhaps not
> configuring something correctly?

This is a window-manager-specific issue.  From what I recall, some 
window managers are broken either way, and this was judged the lesser of 
two evils.

I don't know the bug number off-hand, and can't find it, but it's 
somewhere in bugzilla.  Neo pointed me at it around a year ago, but I've 
since lost track.

--xsdg
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP GIT: window hints and text move

2010-01-22 Thread Alexia Death
On Friday 22 January 2010 07:38:46 Owen wrote:
> It has changed.
> 
> I now select the Move tool (Move the active layer) to reposition.
> 
This drops you out of edit mode for the text layer and getting back to it is a 
lot of clicks.I find this a bit bothersome. Also, the move tool is not really 
convenient if you want to grab something very thin, like a font. Hitting the 
opaque area is annoyingly hard.

My workaround is usually to use the handles to reposition the bounding box by 
changing its size temporarily. Perhaps it would make sense to have a move 
handle on that bounding box as well, that would let you reposition the whole 
thing.

--Alexia
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP GIT: window hints and text move

2010-01-21 Thread Owen

> Two questions based on GIT code.
>
> 1. Is the move feature for the text bounding box in 2.6 to be removed
> from 2.7?  I got used to being able to click and drag within the
> bounding box in 2.6 to position a text layer and found that a nice
> feature.  Just wondering if that is gone from 2.7 development - I
> can't
> move it that way anymore, possibly because clicking inside the
> bounding
> box now acts as text selection.


It has changed.

I now select the Move tool (Move the active layer) to reposition.


-- 



Owen

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