Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Akanna Menu patch

2005-06-13 Thread Nathan Summers
On 6/12/05, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nathan Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Sorry, but GIMP also doesn't know what language the procedure is
  written in. Such a framework would first have to be added and I don't
  see it as particularily useful.
 
  It's a great solution for the real world problem of :
 
  Run the Foo plugin.
  I don't have the Foo plugin.
  Oh crap, what package is it in?
 
 I see that problem but the suggested solution doesn't help with it.
 What the user really wants to know is how to get that particular
 plug-in/script. Telling the user what language it is written in, is
 not going to solve that problem.

Given that in the Real World, the vast majority of the scripts people
have installed came in the same package as the scripting language
itself, this solves a major part of the problem.  On the other hand,
if we are adding a field-of-origin, it's trivial to make it specify
not just language but a URL or somesuch for how to get it.

Rockwalrus
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Akanna Menu patch

2005-06-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Nathan Summers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sorry, but GIMP also doesn't know what language the procedure is
 written in. Such a framework would first have to be added and I don't
 see it as particularily useful.

 It's a great solution for the real world problem of :

 Run the Foo plugin.
 I don't have the Foo plugin.
 Oh crap, what package is it in?

I see that problem but the suggested solution doesn't help with it.
What the user really wants to know is how to get that particular
plug-in/script. Telling the user what language it is written in, is
not going to solve that problem.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Akanna Menu patch

2005-06-11 Thread Nathan Summers
On 6/11/05, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry, but GIMP also doesn't know what language the procedure is
 written in. Such a framework would first have to be added and I don't
 see it as particularily useful.

It's a great solution for the real world problem of :

Run the Foo plugin.
I don't have the Foo plugin.
Oh crap, what package is it in?

Rockwalrus
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[OT] RE: [Gimp-developer] Re: Akanna Menu patch

2005-06-10 Thread Alan Horkan

On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Phil Lello wrote:

 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 00:48:29 +0100
 From: Phil Lello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu
 Subject: RE: [Gimp-developer] Re: Akanna Menu patch

 And of course, not everyone has a right mouse button... or do new
 Macs have more than one button?

Rather than picking on Apple for choosing a single button mouse (which I
actually like for reasons not worth going into again) point is not all pen
and tablet devices have a convenient equivalent to right click which I
think you will agree is more relevant to the gimp.

- Alan
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RE: [Gimp-developer] Re: Akanna Menu patch

2005-06-08 Thread Phil Lello

 Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I always saidthat tehere should be some way to identificate a menu
  entry. Not only there will be up to four (C, script-fu, Python-fu, 
  tiny-fu) equivalent entries on a row, as you point out - 
 but I think 
  one has the right to know how each menu entry got there. 
 
  Today it already happens with stuff like 'filter all layers',
  installed with Gimp-GAP - one can't know where it came from.
 
  People suggested that an icon before menu entries would 
 cause to much
  hassle to the UI - and I agree. I suggested them that 
 right-clicking 
  on a menu item would bring some information about it. (Like:  the 
  package where it came from, what language it is written in, 
 and maybe 
  even accept a new shortcut for that item, without having to enable 
  dynamic shortcuts)
 
 Right-clicking menus is afaik not supported by GTK+ and it 
 would also be very hard to discover. I'd say the Plug-In 
 Browser should be rewritten, probably in the core, to become 
 a Menu Browser. It should be possible to bind it to a 
 function key that can be invoked with a menu-item focused (as 
 you can do with F1 to get help). Such a menu browser would 
 also help to locate menu entries and it could offer a way to 
 change the keyboard shortcut also.
 

And of course, not everyone has a right mouse button... or do new 
Macs have more than one button?


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