Re: Gimp crashes when I start up gimp
On Sat, Dec 25, 1999 at 12:13:29AM +0100, Hans Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are there by definition no version problems on Linux? almost. The only library the xserver is linked against is libc (+libm and libdl, both part of libc). Thats the only part where a version mismatch might happen. If the x server crashes it is by definition a bug in the x server, wether it is caused by a buggy gimp or not... > (I'm one of these perveted guys, using Gimp on Windoze most of the time; > where dealing with such problems is common) The root of the problme might well be a versioning problem, but it is also a bug in x (OTOH, "the machine hangs" is not a very concrete description ;) > Marc, wouldn't it be a good starting point to check version problems > first? Maybe for Gtk independendant from Gimp. Hmm... Yes, but this will not fix the real bug... > >> version is printed.) So... does anybody know what I could do now? > >> Maybe compile the programme myself? > > > > IHMO you should check for multiple Gimps too, and obviously which one > is started, if you type only gimp on xterm. Multiple gimps and multiple gtk+'s and multiple glib's don't work with each other on the same machine (i.e. unless you really know what you are doing). > If everything worked fine before updating, I would expect software > (configuration) problems, instead of mysterious harware problems. if the system freezes under x and he didn't run gimp as root then it is definitely a bug in x, the kernel, or in the libc. updating gtk+ might hide the bug.. btw: re-installing is the advice I gave, which would probably fix his problems if they are a softwrae thing. -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | |
Re: Gimp crashes when I start up gimp
At 19:45 23.12.99 +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote: >On Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 09:24:35AM +0100, Jos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I just updated from SuSE linux 6.1 to 6.3. Now, when I started >> up gimp from an xterm, the screen became full of these lines: > >I can run gimp from suse 6.3 just fine. You do not happen to overclock >your machine? Or have a faulty harddrive? Or faulty dram? Or some broken >library? > Maybe you 've got a problem while partially updating? Suse 6.3 delivers Gimp 1.1.12 (if I recall correctly) ! Although I'm not absolutely sure, I would expect real bad things happen, mixing Gimp less 1.0.4 with newer Gtk 1.2.x or vice versa. >> After which the system didn't respond anymore: I had to reboot, > >This is almost by definition not a bug in gimp, but in your x-server or >your hardware. > Are there by definition no version problems on Linux? (I'm one of these perveted guys, using Gimp on Windoze most of the time; where dealing with such problems is common) >It is very hard to find out what could be the reason for this unpleasant >behaviour. Maybe you just haven't enough RAM to run gimp, and the kernel >starts to kill processes like mad (especially when you run the patched >suse kernel). It might kill your xserver giving you the impression of a >frozen system when, in fact, it isn't. > Marc, wouldn't it be a good starting point to check version problems first? Maybe for Gtk independendant from Gimp. >> version is printed.) So... does anybody know what I could do now? >> Maybe compile the programme myself? > IHMO you should check for multiple Gimps too, and obviously which one is started, if you type only gimp on xterm. jos@home> where gimp >That's a good start, but certainly not the real reason. At the moment, I'd >suggest faulty hardware or not enough memory. But it could be a broken >xserver binary, or wrong xserver for your gfx card.. > If everything worked fine before updating, I would expect software (configuration) problems, instead of mysterious harware problems. Hans Hans "at" Breuer "dot" Org --- Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along without it.-- Dilbert
Re: Gimp crashes when I start up gimp
On Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 09:24:35AM +0100, Jos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just updated from SuSE linux 6.1 to 6.3. Now, when I started > up gimp from an xterm, the screen became full of these lines: I can run gimp from suse 6.3 just fine. You do not happen to overclock your machine? Or have a faulty harddrive? Or faulty dram? Or some broken library? > After which the system didn't respond anymore: I had to reboot, This is almost by definition not a bug in gimp, but in your x-server or your hardware. It is very hard to find out what could be the reason for this unpleasant behaviour. Maybe you just haven't enough RAM to run gimp, and the kernel starts to kill processes like mad (especially when you run the patched suse kernel). It might kill your xserver giving you the impression of a frozen system when, in fact, it isn't. > version is printed.) So... does anybody know what I could do now? > Maybe compile the programme myself? That's a good start, but certainly not the real reason. At the moment, I'd suggest faulty hardware or not enough memory. But it could be a broken xserver binary, or wrong xserver for your gfx card.. -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | |
