Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective
> @David: > BTW, I think you did never mention: are you working on cloned copy of > the git repository, i.e. on the source files? I do have a cloned copy, and have submitted one minor change from it. However the webpages at http://drking.webstarts.com/index.html are a quick mock-up using (rather imperfect) html/css. To do this from the docbook source would mean moving to my Ubuntu machine and, in the absence of the instructions which I believe were once on the wiki, I'd expect to spend hours getting the thing to generate html from docbook, and hours learning which docbook tags are useful, and hours playing with gimp-doc style sheets. In other words the technology is in the way. The main problem I'm trying to solve can be illustrated thus: The docs describe how to draw a straight line, *at least twice*. The second author must have been unaware that it had already been done. Now, if an author is unable to find what is in the contents, there is surely little hope for a user. That's a problem, isn't it? ;) My contention is that by restructuring the contents we could make the docs much easier to use. So I've mocked that up for your comments. Because it was easy, I've used a more visually compact page layout, which I prefer - that's a secondary (independent) issue. If there is interest in restructuring the contents, I'd try to find the time to set things up. If not, I'd be better offering just minor changes from hand-altered docbook source, for someone else to test / commit. David ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
[Gimp-docs] GIMP 2.6 pdf manual
Thanks Alexandre - Is there an html version or something that I can refer to other than trial and error? Cheers -- Kharnang (via gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] Revamp of docs.gimp.org
Hi Byung-Hee, On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 10:58:37AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > >> I have two service machines, which are running FreeBSD. Well i have no > >> skills in operating for gimp docs services. Though i would be offer one > >> of them for gimp project after discussions. Any comments? > > Thanks for the offer. Sounds good to get our release published temporary > > until the docs services moved from the current machine to the new > > server. How we go from here? > > In first, by the way, i think you(we) should contact > docs.gimp.org[graft.xcf.berkeley.edu]'s maintainer. > Then, discuss. > > As far as i know, > the man is "Manish Singh" . Yosh is already on it to get docs.gimp.org back to work as far as I know. Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] Revamp of docs.gimp.org
Roman Joost writes: > Hi Byung-Hee, > > On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 03:31:39PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: >> Roman Joost writes: >> > I reorganized docs.gimp.org a bit and merged the downloads page with the >> > index. A lot of people asked about printable documentation and couldn't >> > really find the releases - I hope this will be easier now. >> > >> > I still can't upload/update the PDFs for the current work. Not much >> > space left on wilber. Hope this will be changed with the new server >> > soon. >> > >> >> I have two service machines, which are running FreeBSD. Well i have no >> skills in operating for gimp docs services. Though i would be offer one >> of them for gimp project after discussions. Any comments? > Thanks for the offer. Sounds good to get our release published temporary > until the docs services moved from the current machine to the new > server. How we go from here? In first, by the way, i think you(we) should contact docs.gimp.org[graft.xcf.berkeley.edu]'s maintainer. Then, discuss. As far as i know, the man is "Manish Singh" . What do you think of? -- 소여물 황병희(黃炳熙) | .. 출항 15분전.. "Old friend, I have no such powers. If I did I would be more merciful than God, believe me." -- Vito Corleone, "Chapter 1", page 47 pgpTEJT9cc8qj.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] Revamp of docs.gimp.org
Hi Byung-Hee, On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 03:31:39PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > Roman Joost writes: > > I reorganized docs.gimp.org a bit and merged the downloads page with the > > index. A lot of people asked about printable documentation and couldn't > > really find the releases - I hope this will be easier now. > > > > I still can't upload/update the PDFs for the current work. Not much > > space left on wilber. Hope this will be changed with the new server > > soon. > > > > I have two service machines, which are running FreeBSD. Well i have no > skills in operating for gimp docs services. Though i would be offer one > of them for gimp project after discussions. Any comments? Thanks for the offer. Sounds good to get our release published temporary until the docs services moved from the current machine to the new server. How we go from here? Cheers, -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: romanof...@gimp.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective
David (Tuesday, 02. November 2010) > OK - but what I really meant was that Selections are not really a > sub-section of Painting - for example you can cut and paste a > selection, which is not painting. It might be better to have > Selections as a separate section... "Selections" as sub-section of "Painting" is not too absurd IMHO. Remember that you can select and copy/cut to create a new brush (see 7.9.2. "Creating a brush quickly"). Ok, meanwhile I have committed my changed channel docs - I hope it *is* an improvement... @David: BTW, I think you did never mention: are you working on cloned copy of the git repository, i.e. on the source files? Bye, Ulf -- Theologe - einziger Experte ohne Ahnung von seinem Forschungsgebiet. -- Karlheinz Deschner signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] GIMP 2.6 pdf manual
On 11/5/10, Kharnang wrote: > Hi - as a new user can someone tell me please where to go to download a pdf > version of the gimp manual for the latest 2.6 version? Currently -- nowhere. docs.gimp.org is temporarily not available. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
[Gimp-docs] GIMP 2.6 pdf manual
Hi - as a new user can someone tell me please where to go to download a pdf version of the gimp manual for the latest 2.6 version? Thanks -- Kharnang (via gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] a new user perspective
In the spirit of contributing, I have mocked up a suggested new format for the html documentation at: http://drking.webstarts.com/index.html It merely shows the ideas. Most of the links don't work (only 'home' works for the navigation). Most of the pages aren't there (* in the contents = available). I realise it's a bit radical, but almost all of the existing documentation content would be re-used, just in a different order. The major change is that the contents are structured and brief, on 1 screen rather than 27; I think I'd know where to click to get the information I wanted. I've used the main GIMP site style, and have put navigation buttons at both top and bottom. In terms of actual content, see the Basic Concepts page, which I've re-written: images are closer to the relevant text; they are smaller, but there are more of them. There are links out to the relevant sections. You'll probably find errors/omissions - but I thought it might be good to share, warts and all. What do you think? Practical or not? Improved or not? David ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
