Re: [Gimp-docs] [Gimp-web] Proposed gimp tutorial

2013-06-26 Thread Pat David
> the best way to go with this is to become a maintainer of your content.

This is actually the step I am at currently while trying to contribute
at least some time in updating and creating new tutorial content.

Stephen, I'll have some free time in a week or two if you want to send
me the .odt files to have a look?  I might be able to help you get
started as well...  (or at least caught up to my rather limited
insight so far).
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Re: [Gimp-docs] Help building help.

2013-06-26 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Roman Joost wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:00:12AM +0200, Marco Ciampa wrote:

> Anyhow, perhaps it makes more sense to move to a epub/Kindle solution. I
> can relate to Marco here, since I'm also using my Kindle to read most of
> my books now. The Kindle format is even simiar to HTML. Not sure if
> there are already packages out there who go from DocBook to Kindle/epub.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/docbook/files/epub3/

However, note that eInk readers are, in my experience, quite inferior
for technical reading. Anything that involves tables and color images
is likely to make your head hurt :) OTOH, EPU is more than just for
eInk readers. Tablets are OK :)

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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Re: [Gimp-docs] Help building help.

2013-06-26 Thread Marco Ciampa
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 04:14:42PM +1000, Roman Joost wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:00:12AM +0200, Marco Ciampa wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:17:50PM +0200, Ulf-D. Ehlert wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 02:41:02PM -0400, john Culleton wrote:
> > > > Elaborate things break more often then simple things. All I want is a
> > > > Gimp Manual in pdf form for version 2.8. I can print this out, put it
> > > > in a ring binder and use it as needed.
> > > 
> > > Making pdf always was problematic for some languages, the html manual
> > > is IMO a better choice. BTW, do you really want to print some hundred
> > > pages?
> > 
> > PDF pages are no longer just for print but a mean to read with computer
> > / tablet / ebook reader. I myself use a kindle to read GIMP books in PDF
> > in the spare time.
> > 
> > I would not underestimate the importance of the pdf format for a manual.
> Perhaps it would make better sense, to remove the PDF functionality
> (based on dblatex), since it never left a stable stage.
> 
> The reason to choose dblatex was that FOP at the time was not mature 
> enough to produce good quality output. I think that has changed. DbLatex 
> worked well for latin content, but always seemed to give us headaches
> with totally different character sets. Perhaps it's not dblatex fault, 
> just the lack investigating a good LaTeX -> PDF solution.
> 
> Anyhow, perhaps it makes more sense to move to a epub/Kindle solution. I 
> can relate to Marco here, since I'm also using my Kindle to read most of 
> my books now. The Kindle format is even simiar to HTML. Not sure if
> there are already packages out there who go from DocBook to Kindle/epub.

There are powerful converters out there. See for example the Git book
that is written in markdown and the pandoc suite or Calibre.

References:

http://git-scm.herokuapp.com/book
http://git-scm.herokuapp.com/blog/2009/07/28/the-gory-details.html
http://www.slideshare.net/larrycai/write-book-in-markdown
http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/epub.html
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/10/the-future-of-markdown.html
https://github.com/LaPingvino/markdown-example-book
http://calibre-ebook.com/

bye

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