Re: [Gimp-docs] Would like to work on the color management documentation

2014-01-27 Thread Elle Stone
On 01/27/2014 10:11 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: I expect that learning to use git and how to build is more of an obstacle than learning enough about docbook since the framework is already in place. It is a bit more difficult if you add or modify a figure, but, if all you do is add / chang

[Gimp-docs] Would like to work on the color management documentation

2014-01-27 Thread Elle Stone
Hi All, I'd like to work on the Gimp color management documentation to add a short explanation of the new monitor and softproofing black point compensation options in the Preferences/Color Management dialog. I'd also like to make a few changes to some of the other color management documentat

Re: [Gimp-docs] Would like to work on the color management documentation

2014-01-27 Thread Elle Stone
On 01/27/2014 09:46 AM, Elle Stone wrote: There's a whole lot about both topics on the internet. How do I learn the very minimum needed to work on Gimp color management documentation? Is there a worked example somewhere? Is there a step-by-step "here's how" guide for peopl

Re: [Gimp-docs] Would like to work on the color management documentation

2014-01-27 Thread Elle Stone
On 01/27/2014 11:02 AM, Elle Stone wrote: It seems like it might be easier for me to modify "gimp-imaging-color-management.html" The Gimp help html files are done using Table Layout. I can't read or write Table Layout. Nor can I modify an xml file without knowing ahead o

Re: [Gimp-docs] Would like to work on the color management documentation

2014-01-29 Thread Elle Stone
On 01/29/2014 01:25 AM, Róman Joost wrote: >> On 01/27/2014 11:02 AM, Elle Stone wrote: >> So I pulled all the Gimp help content related to color management >> into one real html5 file. To modify the Gimp help documentation related to color management, personally I need to *

Re: [Gimp-docs] Would like to work on the color management documentation

2014-01-29 Thread Elle Stone
On 01/29/2014 09:26 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: Are you been able to build and then view the resulting documentation? I built gimp-docs using these commands: ~/code/gimp-help-2 $ ALL_LINGUAS='en' ./autogen.sh --prefix=/home/elle/code/gimp-help-2/run --without-gimp make make install It

Re: [Gimp-docs] Would like to work on the color management documentation

2014-03-10 Thread Elle Stone
On 01/27/2014 09:46 AM, Elle Stone wrote: Hi All, I'd like to work on the Gimp color management documentation to add a short explanation of the new monitor and softproofing black point compensation options in the Preferences/Color Management dialog. I'd also like to make a few chang

[Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-23 Thread Elle Stone
Hi All, I think somewhere it says to please post to the docs list if someone is working on a specific bit of documentation. As my first attempt at trying to help with updating the documentation, I want to try to update the Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation to be current with some re

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-23 Thread Elle Stone
On 03/23/2017 03:52 PM, Julien Hardelin wrote: Welcome Elle, At last, I will not be alone writing documentation :-) I send you an How to contribute that summarizes my experience, hoping it will help you. Julien Hi Julien, Is there a version of the git master documentation online somewhere?

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-24 Thread Elle Stone
On 03/23/2017 05:42 PM, Kolbjørn Stuestøl wrote: I too welcomes you, Elle. Thanks! I know that Julien is an excellent writer and teacher so you are in the best hands. It was Julien (among a couple others) who instructed me in how to translate and in writing documentation many years ago. Hop

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-24 Thread Elle Stone
On 03/21/2017 12:48 PM, Elle Stone wrote: As my first attempt at trying to help with updating the documentation, I want to try to update the Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation to be current with some recent patches. It will be easier for me to work with XML once I know what content I

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-25 Thread Elle Stone
On 03/23/2017 11:09 PM, Pat David wrote: Hi Elle! I can't answer the other questions, but 2.9 can be found here: https://docs.gimp.org/2.9/en/ pat Pat, thanks! I was sure I had seen such a link, but couldn't find it again. Elle ___ gimp-docs-lis

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-25 Thread Elle Stone
On 03/25/2017 03:12 AM, Julien Hardelin wrote: Hello Elle, Hi Julien, Thanks! for taking the time to respond. Color management is a hard subject. In the gimp-users list, questions about color management are rare, because common users don't use it, because they don't understand it. In the ot

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-26 Thread Elle Stone
On 03/26/2017 10:58 AM, Elle Stone wrote: FWIW, I succeeded in compiling gimp-help with the modified desaturate XML file. I'll send some questions in another email. Regarding autogen.sh: 1. This "autogen.sh" command succeeds in generating the requisite file

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-26 Thread Elle Stone
On 03/25/2017 04:10 PM, Julien Hardelin wrote: My apologies, I don't understand what "Precise that these options belong to the Mode item" means. What is a Mode item? Are you referring to the "Advanced Color Options"? Options 1- Presets 2- Mode * Luminance * Lu

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-26 Thread Elle Stone
On 03/26/2017 11:34 AM, Marco Ciampa via gimp-docs-list wrote: But the build ("make -j4 install") ends in an error message: try without -j4: make html-en That works - thanks! Where did this "html-en" option come from? Starting from "./autogen.sh", what are the recommended commands for insta

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-26 Thread Elle Stone
On 03/26/2017 10:58 AM, Elle Stone wrote: FWIW, I succeeded in compiling gimp-help with the modified desaturate XML file. I'll send some questions in another email. Here is a link to what the modified html file looks like after compiling gimp-help to use the modified desaturate xml

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-26 Thread Elle Stone
On 03/26/2017 12:52 PM, Elle Stone wrote: Here is a link to what the modified html file looks like after compiling gimp-help to use the modified desaturate xml file, along with some new images: http://ninedegreesbelow.com/files/desaturate/8-18-desaturate.html Oh, sorry, forgot to upload the

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-26 Thread Elle Stone
On 03/26/2017 10:58 AM, Elle Stone wrote: 2- Mode * Luminance * Luma * Lightness * Average * Value 3- Advanced options * Apply filter to the layer's RAW pixels: with an example If the above means that there s

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-26 Thread Elle Stone
On 03/26/2017 12:52 PM, Elle Stone wrote: Here are three specific questions: 1. How does one validate a specific xml file? Running "make validate-en" produces this rather unhelpful output: I say "unhelpful" because there's no mention of what file is causing the er

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-26 Thread Elle Stone
low. Best regards, Elle Julien Le 26/03/2017 à 18:22, Elle Stone a écrit : On 03/26/2017 10:58 AM, Elle Stone wrote: 2- Mode * Luminance * Luma * Lightness * Average * Value 3- Advanced options * Apply filter to

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-26 Thread Elle Stone
On 03/26/2017 03:35 PM, Elle Stone wrote: Unless there are objections (and/or advice), I'm going to try to make and upload a patch. Assuming that eventually I'll succeed in putting the modified desaturate.xml file into a shape that is acceptable for gimp-help, at that point I&

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-27 Thread Elle Stone
On 03/27/2017 01:58 AM, Julien Hardelin wrote: The Advanced options, along with Split View, Presets, and Preview, are common to *all* Color and Filter operations. I don't think it's appropriate to add an explanation about the Advanced options to each and every Color and Filter page in gimp hel

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-27 Thread Elle Stone
The current GIMP documentation is a pretty amazing work. It needs updating for 2.10. I was asked to try to contribute to updating the GIMP color management documentation. I don't know docbook. I don't know XML. I don't know the GIMP-manual way of writing patches, submitting commits, etc. I o

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-27 Thread Elle Stone
On 03/27/2017 12:16 PM, Elle Stone wrote: The "git status" terminal output can be downloaded from here: http://ninedegreesbelow.com/files/desaturate/git-status.txt Never mind the git-status.txt. Starting with a fresh clone, the problem with the po files doesn't

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-27 Thread Elle Stone
On 03/27/2017 11:28 AM, Elle Stone wrote: I will send you the "git status" terminal output and the xml file in a private email. Hi Julien, I did send you an email with the git status terminal output and the xml file. But there is a good chance you'll never get the email (ther

Re: [Gimp-docs] Colors/Desaturate/Desaturate documentation

2017-03-27 Thread Elle Stone
The patch I uploaded to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767763 applies cleanly to a fresh clone of gimp-help. gitg is happy. The xml file validates. The resulting html page (shown here: http://ninedegreesbelow.com/files/desaturate/8-18-desaturate.html) looks good. Is there any

[Gimp-docs] RGB-clip

2017-03-29 Thread Elle Stone
I'd like to (and have already started) working on writing documentation for RGB-clip. According to Bug 778101 Missing docs: new RGB Clip filter https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778101 this missing documentation bug is assigned to Róman Joost. Would Róman Joost prefer to add the doc

Re: [Gimp-docs] RGB-clip

2017-03-30 Thread Elle Stone
Hi All, Just fyi, RGB-clip in the Colors menu requires refering to the Image/Precision menu, which isn't already in the documentation. Also "precision" needs a glossary entry. So I'm working on all the following files at once: Existing files: * src/glossary.xml to change the entries tha

Re: [Gimp-docs] Preferences documentation

2017-04-04 Thread Elle Stone
On 04/04/2017 10:38 AM, Elle Stone wrote: Hi All, Most of the documentation devoted to "Enrich my GIMP" is actually documentation for Preferences. The Preferences page is huge, too large for users to easily navigate. What do you all think about reorganizing as follows? * Make Pre

[Gimp-docs] Preferences documentation

2017-04-04 Thread Elle Stone
Hi All, Most of the documentation devoted to "Enrich my GIMP" is actually documentation for Preferences. The Preferences page is huge, too large for users to easily navigate. What do you all think about reorganizing as follows? * Make Preferences a stand-alone section with the base URL http

[Gimp-docs] Feedback on first pushed commits

2017-04-04 Thread Elle Stone
Hi All, Since March 28 I've pushed 7 commits (not including a commit that only uploaded a new screenshot) for various color management/high bit depth related items. If anyone has time to check my xml files for consistency, indentation, proper use of , , and such, that would help ensure that

Re: [Gimp-docs] Preferences documentation

2017-04-04 Thread Elle Stone
On 04/04/2017 03:05 PM, Elle Stone wrote: * remove the include statements from preferences_introduction.xml Well, that's not right. I was thinking about php include for adding html from one file to another html file. Sigh. Best, Elle ___

Re: [Gimp-docs] Preferences documentation

2017-04-04 Thread Elle Stone
nces_introduction.xml * anything else? I'll try the above changes on my local install of gimp-help-2 and see what happens. Best, Elle Le 04/04/2017 à 16:38, Elle Stone a écrit : Hi All, Most of the documentation devoted to "Enrich my GIMP" is actually documentation for Pre

Re: [Gimp-docs] Feedback on first pushed commits

2017-04-04 Thread Elle Stone
On 04/04/2017 03:41 PM, Kolbjørn Stuestøl wrote: 4. commit 8f8821749d050e88241955e5d65f01382f7d9f97 https://docs.gimp.org/2.9/en/gimp-image-color-management.html https://docs.gimp.org/2.9/en/gimp-image-enable-color-management.html In terms of translating, I'd suggest holding off on translating

Re: [Gimp-docs] Preferences documentation

2017-04-05 Thread Elle Stone
On 04/04/2017 04:15 PM, Elle Stone wrote: On 04/04/2017 03:05 PM, Elle Stone wrote: * remove the include statements from preferences_introduction.xml Well, that's not right. I was thinking about php include for adding html from one file to another html file. Sigh. I opened a bug repor

Re: [Gimp-docs] Feedback on first pushed commits

2017-04-05 Thread Elle Stone
On 04/04/2017 02:03 PM, Elle Stone wrote: 4. commit 8f8821749d050e88241955e5d65f01382f7d9f97 https://docs.gimp.org/2.9/en/gimp-image-color-management.html https://docs.gimp.org/2.9/en/gimp-image-enable-color-management.html 5. commit 408556670ea74a530f3bdaf73b8d4e2903a7cfdb https

Re: [Gimp-docs] Feedback on first pushed commits

2017-04-06 Thread Elle Stone
On 04/05/2017 08:54 AM, Elle Stone wrote: Actually I'd suggest holding off on translating any of the color management menu pages as there are two more pages to write for the color management menu. These pages all go together, so likely I'll make minor changes to the "already do

Re: [Gimp-docs] Feedback on first pushed commits

2017-04-28 Thread Elle Stone
On 04/28/2017 04:35 AM, Marco Ciampa via gimp-docs-list wrote: Is this right? src/menus/colors/desaturate/desaturate.xml:108(phrase) The shades of gray will be calculated as Lightness (HSL)) = ½ × (max(R,G,B) + m

Re: [Gimp-docs] Feedback on first pushed commits

2017-04-28 Thread Elle Stone
On 04/28/2017 02:59 PM, Marco Ciampa via gimp-docs-list wrote: I think there is a spurious parenthesis after HSL Hmm, so there is. Sorry! ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list

Re: [Gimp-docs] Color Temperature

2018-07-07 Thread Elle Stone
On 07/07/2018 02:25 PM, Julien Hardelin wrote: Hi all, I don't understand why we can change the original temperature in colors/Color Temperature. If this is the color temperature of the light source the image was taken with, it should be a fixed value that can't be changed. Hi Julien, I do

Re: [Gimp-docs] Color Temperature

2018-07-07 Thread Elle Stone
On 07/07/2018 02:45 PM, Elle Stone wrote: I don't think "What color temperature was the original image" is a well-defined question. If the image was color-balanced by making a neutral object in the image read as neutral, at least in ICC profile software the color temperature