Re: [Gimp-docs] Doc update
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 09:09:59AM +0200, Marco Ciampa via gimp-docs-list wrote: > Hope you don't mind I rebounce it on the gimp-doc ml... it can be useful > for somebody else... Here some specific docs: https://wiki.gnome.org/Community/GettingInTouch/IRC -- Saluton, Marco Ciampa ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] Doc update
Hope you don't mind I rebounce it on the gimp-doc ml... it can be useful for somebodyelse... On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 08:40:32PM +0200, Julien Hardelin wrote: > Indeed! There is no timestamp. > > But in your local html, at What's new in gimp-2.10.18, you can see that > there are several references. In the internet html, only New sliders is > referenced. And I sent New sliders 3 monthes ago. Ok, if you go here, http://gimp.linux.it/www/manual/2.10/html/en/ is it less old? > Another thing: how do you use IRC. I don't know that. First of all you need an irc client. There are many for Linux. I use hexchat, try it. Then you have to select to the GIMPNet server (irc.gimp.org) and go for #gimp #gimp-user and #gimp-web channels. You can execute some commands with the GUI and all commands manually. All commands on a IRC server are more or less the same: /join #channelname to join a channel /quit to quit usually in the form: /somecommand search on web there are plenty of guides to do anything in irc. IRC protocol is really the "father" of all on-line chats in use these days... -- Saluton, Marco Ciampa ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] Doc update
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 07:54:40AM +0200, Julien Hardelin wrote: > https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/ has not been updated since 3 monthes. > > It was to be updated nightly. What happens? > > That's not encouraging for doc developper, translators and users. > > Julien How do you see it that it's not updated? For what I see (there is not a timestamp) it is updated... -- Saluton, Marco Ciampa ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] Doc update
On 6/18/20 11:03 AM, Marco Ciampa via gimp-docs-list wrote: > My experience is ... the few times I connect into irc, all people are > connected but nobody's speaking. It seems to me a place where people meet > after having arranged an appointment or so by any other means... You can't expect them to reply to a random Hi, if that is what you are asking, but IRC is pretty much where GIMP development is happening. #gimp is pretty active on usual European evenings. > Email is persistent, irc is not. I can't see older messages. So, for me, > irc is like using the phone: without record and on the fly. Figuring out that, while the build is running, nothing is rsynced ,has been done entirely on IRC. If we need more persistence, it would be better to file an issue - and bring that up on IRC if necessary, it's much more easy to post issue URL than mailing list archives. -- Regards, Michael GPG: 96A8 B38A 728A 577D 724D 60E5 F855 53EC B36D 4CDD ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] Doc update
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 08:06:24AM +0200, Marco Ciampa via gimp-docs-list wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 01:40:23AM +0200, Michael Schumacher wrote: > > > > > > On 6/17/20 9:34 PM, Marco Ciampa via gimp-docs-list wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 07:54:40AM +0200, Julien Hardelin wrote: > > > > >> https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/ has not been updated since 3 monthes. > > > > That was when the whole infrastructure was migrated to GNOME OpenShift, > > and... > > > > >> It was to be updated nightly. What happens? > > > > ... there's even a cron job still doing that, but for some reason the > > generated docs don't get rsync'ed onto the actual website. A GNOME > > sysadmin is looking into that tomorrow, though. > > > > >> That's not encouraging for doc developper, translators and users. > > > > > Most of all it is not encuraging ignoring us and our problem reports... > > > > A much faster and more direct way to interact, rather than the mailing > > list, would be IRC, especially the #gimp channel on irc.gimp.org - this > > is pretty much where all the active developers are. > > Ok thanks for the prompt reply Michael! My experience is ... the few times I connect into irc, all people are connected but nobody's speaking. It seems to me a place where people meet after having arranged an appointment or so by any other means... Email is persistent, irc is not. I can't see older messages. So, for me, irc is like using the phone: without record and on the fly. Not the right tool for bugs that lasts for months... Am I wrong? -- Saluton, Marco Ciampa ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] Doc update
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 01:40:23AM +0200, Michael Schumacher wrote: > > > On 6/17/20 9:34 PM, Marco Ciampa via gimp-docs-list wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 07:54:40AM +0200, Julien Hardelin wrote: > > >> https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/ has not been updated since 3 monthes. > > That was when the whole infrastructure was migrated to GNOME OpenShift, > and... > > >> It was to be updated nightly. What happens? > > ... there's even a cron job still doing that, but for some reason the > generated docs don't get rsync'ed onto the actual website. A GNOME > sysadmin is looking into that tomorrow, though. > > >> That's not encouraging for doc developper, translators and users. > > > Most of all it is not encuraging ignoring us and our problem reports... > > A much faster and more direct way to interact, rather than the mailing > list, would be IRC, especially the #gimp channel on irc.gimp.org - this > is pretty much where all the active developers are. Ok thanks for the prompt reply Michael! -- Saluton, Marco Ciampa ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] Doc update
On 6/17/20 9:34 PM, Marco Ciampa via gimp-docs-list wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 07:54:40AM +0200, Julien Hardelin wrote: >> https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/ has not been updated since 3 monthes. That was when the whole infrastructure was migrated to GNOME OpenShift, and... >> It was to be updated nightly. What happens? ... there's even a cron job still doing that, but for some reason the generated docs don't get rsync'ed onto the actual website. A GNOME sysadmin is looking into that tomorrow, though. >> That's not encouraging for doc developper, translators and users. > Most of all it is not encuraging ignoring us and our problem reports... A much faster and more direct way to interact, rather than the mailing list, would be IRC, especially the #gimp channel on irc.gimp.org - this is pretty much where all the active developers are. -- Regards, Michael GPG: 96A8 B38A 728A 577D 724D 60E5 F855 53EC B36D 4CDD ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
Re: [Gimp-docs] Doc update
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 07:54:40AM +0200, Julien Hardelin wrote: > https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/ has not been updated since 3 monthes. > > It was to be updated nightly. What happens? > > That's not encouraging for doc developper, translators and users. > > Julien Most of all it is not encuraging ignoring us and our problem reports... Who is responsible to the help compilation? Can we, at least temporarly, cover for him? How can we do? Do we need special permission on some Virtual Machine somewhere? Devs? Is anyone here? -- Saluton, Marco Ciampa ___ gimp-docs-list mailing list gimp-docs-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs-list
