Re: [Gimp-gui] What is your opinion on on-canvas dialogs?

2017-12-22 Thread Akkana Peck
Alexandre Prokoudine writes:
[lots of sensible stuff]

> Frankly, the rotation dialog before 2.9 was PITA. I'll speak for
> myself, but every time I switched to that tool and clicked the
> drawable, the first thing I did was moving the bloody dialog away so
> that I could see my image. The dialog was getting in the way of

Yes, that's true. I don't think anyone liked the popup dialogs.
But the on-canvas dialogs, as you say, have a lot of the same problems.

> That leaves us Angle, Origin X, Origin Y and maybe a small reset
> button for the origin. Fits the rest of Settings dialog nicely.
> 
> What I _would_ add to the canvas is a small on-screen display item
> that would follow the mouse pointer at an offset and display current
> angle as long as you drag and disappear as soon as you stop. That way
> you know the current angle exactly _and_ you don't have to change your
> point of eye focus _and_ you can evaluate the result without visual
> obstacles (just stop dragging).

That would be terrific. The three numbers that matter for rotate
(and similarly for the other transform tools, except Unified)
are easier to show than the numbers GIMP shows already for Crop,
Rect Select and Ellipse Select, and the Tool Options work fine
for those tools. Having a little additional feedback on the angle
via a number near the mouse would be quite handy, and unobtrusive.

[On the Text tool:]
> There can be 3 (THREE) simultaneously available text setting areas on
> display: on-canvas toolbar, text editor dialog, and settings in the
> sidebar. All three have a feature overlap. Isn't that a little crazy?

Worse, although they overlap in features, the features behave
differently. For instance, the controls in the on-canvas dialog
don't do anything unless you first select all the text (which makes
the dialog's display look more cluttered and makes it even harder to
see what's underneath), while the Tool Options controls work without
needing a selection.

The Text tool dialog also differs from the other on-canvas dialogs
in not having detach/dismiss buttons.

...Akkana
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Re: [Gimp-gui] GIMP Theme UI now and future.

2015-12-30 Thread Akkana Peck
Elle writes:
> >On my system the "light side of GIMP" theme and the current default
> >GIMP theme are very close in tonality, with the "light side of GIMP
> >theme being a tad lighter. Here's a screenshot showing the two themes
> >side by side:
> >http://ninedegreesbelow.com/bug-reports/gimp29/light-side-vs-default-small.jpg
[ ... ]
> >1. The "light side of GIMP" theme has a lot of darker tones in things
> >like sliders, boxes for choosing parameters, the menu bar, and really
> >just about everywhere. This makes for too little contrast between the
> >sliders, boxes, etc and any contained text. It seems to me that a
> >lighter shade of gray would make the text stand out better.

I should clarify that my comment about both light themes being too
dark and lacking contrast referred to the darker #bdbdbd color that
Elle mentions here, not the base #ee color. The darker color
predominates in the screenshots, including in areas where there's a
lot of text to read. Black against #bdbdbd is a lot less contrasty
and harder to read than what I currently see in GIMP 2.9 and earlier.

Jehan writes:
> I agree. Also do we want the theme to get rid of colors? If I were to
> decide, I'd say no. For sliders for instance, I quite prefer this blue|white
> colors to the white|grey proposed.

I don't have strong feelings about the current blue/white sliders
vs. the grey/white ones in the "lighter side" theme, though I find
the 3D highlights in the "alternate light" sliders prettier and more
professional looking than the flat ones (just a personal prejudice,
I'll be fine using whatever GIMP ends up with).

However, I'd be sorry to see the colors in the Toolbox icons go. I
have a very hard time telling many of the icons apart already, even
with color cues, and without color it'll be a lot harder. I know
there are people who don't want color icons distracting them, but
I don't think I'll be able to use these monochrome Toolbox icons,
and that will probably drive me to a custom theme, and might drive
some users away from GIMP if it's not easy to find alternate themes.

...Akkana


Re: [Gimp-gui] GIMP Theme UI now and future.

2015-12-30 Thread Akkana Peck
draekko.software writes:
> Maybe for starters offer input on the current Dark Theme and if there might
> be interest in a new light & grey theme as well or any other suggestions for
> that matter. You can find the themes here:
[ ... ]
> Light Theme
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759648
> 
> Alternate Light Theme (Lighter, more color contrast on some items/widgets)
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=759830

Both the light themes seem quite dark and not very contrasty
(with black text and icons) compared to the GIMP I currently see,
which has a background color of #dcdad5 rather than the #bdbdbd
used in both of the light themes for most icons and menus;
except the menus in the alternate light theme, which are pretty
close to what I see now in GIMP.

I'd like to see a theme option (whether or not it's the default)
that has similar contrast to the current theme; the new themes will
be harder to read for at least some users.

Or am I only seeing #dcdad5 because I changed my theme at some
point?  I'm pretty sure I don't have a custom GIMP theme (themerc
says: include "/usr/local/gimp-git/share/gimp/2.0/themes/Default/gtkrc");
my .gtkrc-2.0 says gtk-theme-name="Raleigh", and I don't think I
set that explicitly, I think it was the default at some point.

Will these new GIMP themes override the user's GTK theme?

I'm using Linux with Openbox, no desktop.

...Akkana