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2004-11-07 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris
This has got way OT already. Please, no one send any other e-mail involving politics. Animosities could explode on either side, and this won't help colaborative work for Free Software, be it the GIMP or any other project. There are apropriate channels on the internet for such arguing. On Mond

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Kevin Myers
Maybe I jumped on Alan a too harshly. But I'm afraid that folks who lost friends and relatives on the Normandy beachheads and in the World Trade center don't have too much patience for comments along those lines. - Original Message - From: "Kevin Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PR

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Kevin Myers
Please give my regards to the French, and speaking of Liberty, you might want to recall who liberated France from German occupation, not once, but twice. Also perhaps mention the fact that the USA also protected all of Europe from the Soviet Union for half a century, at great cost to every man, wo

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Alan Horkan
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, nate cockram wrote: > Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 13:34:59 -0500 > From: nate cockram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp > > > To my mind changing the name now would be like > > renaming the Statue of Liberty to something like >

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Alan Horkan
> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 01:08:39 -0800 (PST) > From: Gezim Hoxha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: gimp user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp > > Hi all, > > I find the name GIMP not very attractive and I think > if we want to market the GIMP we need to do something > about thi

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Asif Lodhi
Tom wrote . > The name is fine. It's unusual and easy to remember. > It never made me think of a disabled person until it > was mentioned here. ... PhotoChop? ... now that makes > me think of 'butcher'. Please follow this dictionary link: http://dictionary.ref

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Asif Lodhi
Jakub Friedl Wrote >> THe name should imply/tell something about the >> application...GIMP doesn't say anything to me other > With good brands it happens often the other way - Xerox comes to mind > immediatelly. But there are many more such examples. YES. Apple Computers, for example. Mac

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Marco Wessel
On Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 09:39:32AM +1100, Owen Cook wrote: > > On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Gezim Hoxha wrote: > > > > > P.S: I know GIMP is an acronym, but [almost] no one > > calls it GNU Image Manipulation Program either. > > > Corrupt the acronym ..the "Great Image Manipulation Program" > > and if

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Owen Cook
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Gezim Hoxha wrote: > > P.S: I know GIMP is an acronym, but [almost] no one > calls it GNU Image Manipulation Program either. Corrupt the acronym ..the "Great Image Manipulation Program" and if you didn't do an install-strip, you might want to call it the "Bloody Large Ima

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread ivanova
On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:27:10 +0100 Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Gezim Hoxha wrote: > > > So what do YOU think, does the GIMP need a > >name change? > > > > > > > > PhotoChop, photochip, potatochip, potatocrop, protocrop, protoshop, > protogimp, protochimp, photochamp, chomp, chump.

Re: [Gimp-user] Layers names

2004-11-07 Thread Owen Cook
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Gérald wrote: > > Is there's a way to retreive the layers names/ attributes in an xcf file > whitout loading it ? I don't think so. If you plan in advance and call all your layers Big_Layer Small_layer Green_Layer etc then you can extract the names from the file with t

[Gimp-user] Layers names

2004-11-07 Thread Gérald
Hi, Is there's a way to retreive the layers names/ attributes in an xcf file whitout loading it ? -- Gérald Brosseau La Photo du Jour www.gb-photodujour.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Andrew
Gezim Hoxha wrote: So what do YOU think, does the GIMP need a name change? PhotoChop, photochip, potatochip, potatocrop, protocrop, protoshop, protogimp, protochimp, photochamp, chomp, chump What about nimph? (nude image manipulation program hoho) Andrew _

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread John Dietsch
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Jakub Friedl (lists) wrote: Very well put & a very good piece of software as well. J Dietsch > > But you can do a demo and it is better than they have a false knowledge > > about it! > Insightful remark. Gimp is the Gimp. Not a Photoshop clone. It > shouldn't be the same and it

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread nate cockram
> To my mind changing the name now would be like > renaming the Statue of Liberty to something like > statue of false hope. Hmm... well, now that you mention it... :/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/lis

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread John Richard Smith
Gezim Hoxha wrote: Hi all, I find the name GIMP not very attractive and I think if we want to market the GIMP we need to do something about this name (i.e. change it). I have friends ask me "What program is that?" and the when they hear "GIMP" it doesn't sound good, and it's hard to remember. So wh

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Wayne Maeda
On Saturday 06 November 2004 11:08 pm, Gezim Hoxha wrote: > I find the name GIMP not very attractive and I think > if we want to market the GIMP we need to do something > about this name (i.e. change it). How about we call it "SNOT" or "PHLEGM?" ___ Gim

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Tom
The name is fine. It's unusual and easy to remember. It never made me think of a disabled person until it was mentioned here. ... PhotoChop? ... now that makes me think of 'butcher'. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berke

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Carol Spears
On Sun, Nov 07, 2004 at 01:08:39AM -0800, Gezim Hoxha wrote: > Hi all, > > I find the name GIMP not very attractive and I think > if we want to market the GIMP we need to do something > about this name (i.e. change it). well here you go. gimp is nice and doing just fine not being marketed.

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Geoffrey
Gezim Hoxha wrote: Hi all, I find the name GIMP not very attractive and I think if we want to market the GIMP we need to do something about this name (i.e. change it). I have friends ask me "What program is that?" and the when they hear "GIMP" it doesn't sound good, and it's hard to remember. So wh

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Jakub Friedl (lists)
> THe name should imply/tell something about the > application...GIMP doesn't say anything to me other With good brands it happens often the other way - Xerox comes to mind immediatelly. But there are many more such examples. My experience is that many people around me mix all the similar names -

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Gezim Hoxha
> So I do not get what you do not like about the name. > There are lots of free programs that do not have > ideal names > (some are really obscure), but the Gimp is one I > really like. > > Jakub Friedl THe name should imply/tell something about the application...GIMP doesn't say anything to me

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, regis rampnoux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 07-Nov-2004 Kevin Waterson wrote: > > >> I find the name GIMP not very attractive and I think > >> if we want to market the GIMP we need to do something > >> about this name (i.e. change it). I have friends ask > >> me

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread david thompson
Yes, the GIMP does make you think of the disabled!! Gezim Hoxha wrote: Hi all, I find the name GIMP not very attractive and I think if we want to market the GIMP we need to do something about this name (i.e. change it). I have friends ask me "What program is that?" and the when they hear "GIMP" it

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Jakub Friedl (lists)
> But you can do a demo and it is better than they have a false knowledge > about it! Insightful remark. Gimp is the Gimp. Not a Photoshop clone. It shouldn't be the same and its name shouldn't imply it. It is an original software. ___ Gimp-user mailing l

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread regis rampnoux
On 07-Nov-2004 Kevin Waterson wrote: >> I find the name GIMP not very attractive and I think >> if we want to market the GIMP we need to do something >> about this name (i.e. change it). I have friends ask >> me "What program is that?" and the when they hear But you can do a demo and it is bette

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Jakub Friedl (lists)
> remember. So what do YOU think, does the GIMP need a > name change? No. The name is very nice and many people already know it. It is a good brand. Even people that never used it often heard about the Gimp. And the name is very easy to remember. It is only 4 letters short and it has a meaning - G

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Gezim Hoxha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I find the name GIMP not very attractive and I think > if we want to market the GIMP we need to do something > about this name (i.e. change it). I have friends ask > me "What program is that?" and the when they hear

Re: [Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Bob Long
On Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:08 PM [GMT+1=CET], Gezim Hoxha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So what do YOU think, does the GIMP need a name change? Well, as you ask, I do NOT think a name change is needed. The GIMP is great! The name is fine, and it's not a name I have trouble remembering. Bob Long

[Gimp-user] renaming the gimp

2004-11-07 Thread Gezim Hoxha
Hi all, I find the name GIMP not very attractive and I think if we want to market the GIMP we need to do something about this name (i.e. change it). I have friends ask me "What program is that?" and the when they hear "GIMP" it doesn't sound good, and it's hard to remember. So what do YOU think, d